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- From: oliver@damabus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Meyer)
- Subject: Re: Atari marketing was: ding dong.. who's there ? Dr who..
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- References: <oliver.715960096@drunol> <1992Sep9.101836.21432@quando.quantum.de>
- Date: 11 Sep 92 14:25:15 GMT
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- vombruch@quando.quantum.de (Stefan vom Bruch) writes:
-
- >: P.S. I think honesty is a virtue.
-
- >Okay - so what you're actually saying is, you would prefer to buy a computer
- >that is advertised as the fastest,
-
- [... deleted some stuff ]
-
- > :-)
-
- I didn't say I would prefer to buy such a computer, but I think you sell thing
- to a lot of people that way. Of Course there are such persons (as you and
- me perhaps), who know about the features of the Falcon and who can't be treated
- that way, but there are persons, who don't know and who hear and _believe_
- the lies other companies than atari spreed. What will those people do??
- Well what would you do? Of course you would buy the "better" computer just
- to see, that it doesn't do what it should do when you really use it (e.g.
- making coffee).
-
- >[...] I don't think that
- >Atari would have gained anything by putting liars on the stand. Apart from
- >the obvious reason that this is definitely not the way to go, [...]
-
- I AGREE with you: This is not the way to go.
- (remember: honesty is a virtue)
- But from point of view it's the way to sell something if
- you aren't the only one who sells.
-
- In MY eyes (so please don't start a flame war) Microsoft Windows 3.0 is a big
- piece of shit. (Microsoft Windows 3.1 is an even smaller one). And how do they
- sell it?? With a lot of advertisment with (a few) lies. That's the way it
- goes today (even if it's not the way to go).
- Windows is even sold, while there is OS2/2.0 which is obviously the better
- solution. But IBM is to honest about it, and so is ATARI.
-
- > [...] it would
- >have been the wrong place anyway because a) most people on the show are far
- >to competent to be fooled in such a way; b) the Falcons were there for
- >everyone to see and everybody could test their software on them so any
- >unbelievable claims could have been checked right away; [..]
-
- Okay, Okay, your absolutly right with this !!!!
- Maybe it would have been the wrong place to lie obviously, but as you said
- _most_ (so not all) were far to competent to be fooled, but not all, and
- those were ther persons I adressed. Maybe I exagerate to much, to get my
- point clear.
-
- > [...]c) you can't sell
- >a computer by just telling people: it can do this and this and that too
- >without having some demo to back you up.
-
- Perhaps you can't sell them right now, but when someone just hears it and
- leaves the flair he will keep that lie in mind and the Falcon will have
- better chances to get bought.
- So actually you can sell computer that way (it's cruel, but it's true).
-
- >Re: PS: Arguing that Atari should have lied at the show then saying that you
- >think honesty is a virtue is not a good way to prove your point... what *is*
- >your point!?!
-
- I do really think (and i hope I act like it) that honesty is a virtue.
- On the other hand the Falcon is very nice computer and it would be a pitty
- if they don't sell them, just because they are _too_ honest.
-
- Made my point clear ??
-
- Oliver
-
-