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- From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
- Subject: Re: Buying a Falcon (was: Falcon Graphics)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep8.010908.3797@spcvxb.spc.edu>
- Date: 8 Sep 92 05:09:08 GMT
- References: <Bu1Dyu.IA0@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> <1992Sep4.151149.8953@newshost.lanl.gov> <1992Sep08.005119.160610@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
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- In article <1992Sep08.005119.160610@rrz.uni-koeln.de>, aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim) writes:
- > In <1992Sep7.153742.21904@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- >
- >>kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de writes:
-
- >>How much is a 486/50 MHz (or 33MHz DX) with 120 Meg HD, OS/2 2.0, 8 MB RAM,
- >>SVGA Monitor, Case, Keyboard etc.? I have some promotion flyers from
- >>Austria but they are a bit out of date. I would really like to know the
- >>prices they charge in germany or any other european country.
- >
- > I think 486/33MHz systems can be had for less than DM 4,000.--,
- > including a monitor. OS/2 or any other OS probably is not
- > included. But when it comes to OS/2, I agree that it is
- > comparable to MultiTOS, however, the software base of TOS is much
- > more powerful at the moment than the software base of OS/2
-
- You must be kidding. OS/2 can run Windows/DOS and OS/2 software.
- I would think that would give it the largest software base around.
- I use OS/2 regularly and it is much more stable and polished than
- anything Atari has pushed out.
-
- >>In North America Atari Corporation is as good as dead. They don't have
- >>anything to offer what corporate customers want and what the average user
- >>want. Will I buy one, NO. Definetely not. Why? I will be in the same
- >>position as with the STE, MSTE, TT etc. Does it offer anything that I would
- >>want? NO.
- >
- > Sorry, this makes me getting silly and remembering a limerick
- > posted by Thomas Darling well more than a year ago, where he
- > wonders whether someone who kept complaining about the ST may be
- > unable to find the power switch. Anyway, when I turn on the power
- > switch of my ST, it offers me a desktop which is not fancy but
- > allows me to run a lot of programs comfortably from my hard disk.
- > It has been working for me for more than three years now, and the
- > fact that I don't find it entirely satisfactory anymore makes me
- > go for a Falcon, not for another system.
- >
- >>Will Atari Corporation ever smarten-up? No, they never did and
- >>will never do. The company is run by a bunch of clowns, that's the only
- >>expression I would use (I guess slang should not be used).
- >
- > You can call the Atari managers whatever you want. What counts to
- > me is the computer, not the people running the corporation that
- > produce it. If it's good, why not buy from "clowns"? If someone
- > outrageously exploits people or the environment, that makes a
- > good reason not to buy from him at all, but if I don't like
- > someone I can still buy from him.
-
- This doesn't make sense. If you think that a company is poorly
- run, then it follows that its bungling will leak into all of its
- activities. The reason I never bought another Atari computer is
- not because I didn't like them, but because I had no confidence
- in the company producing it. The Falcon could quite easily become
- the Osborne of tomorrow.
-
- > The only problem I have with the Tramiels is that it seems their
- > main goal is making money, not making good computers. But this is
- > the nineties and just about every company seems to act like that.
-
- I don't think this is true. If they were interested in making
- money, they would manage the company better which would probably
- translate to a higher stock price. Since the Tramiels are the
- biggest holders of Atari stock, they are the biggest losers.
- Atari Corp is probably a huge tax shelter for them. :-)
-
- >
- >>I have just purchased a system which costs the same as 5-6 Falcon computers.
- >>It offers all I would ever want and much more. I know it will be supported
- >>and supported well. Software is available everywhere and I can go and buy
- >>anything for it everywhere.
- >
- > Of course, if you can afford to spend about DM 15,000.-- for a
- > computer, it makes no sense even to think of a Falcon. However,
- > for people who don't want to spend more than DM 3,000.-- a Falcon
- > makes much more sense than the other choices they have in many
- > cases.
- >
- Wow, I can't believe computers are still so expensive over there.
- About 6 months ago, I bought a very attractively configured 486-33mhz
- system with a lot of software for a total outlay of about US$2500.
- That is only about DM3800.
-
- Cheers,
-
- Chris
-
- p.s. OK, I promise I'll unsusbscribe any day now. Hehe, I'd forgotten
- how amusing this group is. :)
-