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- From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
- Subject: Re: Buying a Falcon (was: Falcon Graphics)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep08.005119.160610@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
- Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
- Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
- References: <Bu1Dyu.IA0@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> <1992Sep4.151149.8953@newshost.lanl.gov> <1992Sep07.114324.123106@rrz.uni-koeln.de> <1992Sep7.153742.21904@zooid.guild.org>
- Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 00:51:19 GMT
- Lines: 87
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- In <1992Sep7.153742.21904@zooid.guild.org> Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
-
- >kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de writes:
-
- >>If the Falcon with 4 MB and 60MB HD becomes available at around
- >>DM 1,800.--, I will probably buy one as soon as they appear in
- >>the stores. If it is more expensive, I'll wait until next year,
- >>hoping the prices will lower after christmas. And, I will surely
- >>check out the price for the 14MB RAM model, since with MultiTOS
- >>you can't have too much memory, but I'm afraid I'll be unable to
- >>afford it.
-
- >How much is a 486/50 MHz (or 33MHz DX) with 120 Meg HD, OS/2 2.0, 8 MB RAM,
- >SVGA Monitor, Case, Keyboard etc.? I have some promotion flyers from
- >Austria but they are a bit out of date. I would really like to know the
- >prices they charge in germany or any other european country.
-
- I think 486/33MHz systems can be had for less than DM 4,000.--,
- including a monitor. OS/2 or any other OS probably is not
- included. But when it comes to OS/2, I agree that it is
- comparable to MultiTOS, however, the software base of TOS is much
- more powerful at the moment than the software base of OS/2
-
- >Did anyone buy the Falcon030 at the Duesseldorf show?
-
- No. It was not sold at the Atari Messe.
-
- >I think people are more
- >cautious this time around and they will REALLY think hard before purchasing
- >any Atari equipment. I agree, it offers some unique features but you can say
- >this with every computer on the market.
-
- I didn't see too many cautious people in Duesseldorf. Much
- rather, I know quite a few people who are determined to buy a
- Falcon. And, of course people think more or less hard before they
- buy a Falcon, but then, that's true for all computers too. The
- price of a computer is still a considerable bunch of money to
- most buyers, even though they become lower at a sometimes
- breathtaking speed.
-
- >In North America Atari Corporation is as good as dead. They don't have
- >anything to offer what corporate customers want and what the average user
- >want. Will I buy one, NO. Definetely not. Why? I will be in the same
- >position as with the STE, MSTE, TT etc. Does it offer anything that I would
- >want? NO.
-
- Sorry, this makes me getting silly and remembering a limerick
- posted by Thomas Darling well more than a year ago, where he
- wonders whether someone who kept complaining about the ST may be
- unable to find the power switch. Anyway, when I turn on the power
- switch of my ST, it offers me a desktop which is not fancy but
- allows me to run a lot of programs comfortably from my hard disk.
- It has been working for me for more than three years now, and the
- fact that I don't find it entirely satisfactory anymore makes me
- go for a Falcon, not for another system.
-
- >Will Atari Corporation ever smarten-up? No, they never did and
- >will never do. The company is run by a bunch of clowns, that's the only
- >expression I would use (I guess slang should not be used).
-
- You can call the Atari managers whatever you want. What counts to
- me is the computer, not the people running the corporation that
- produce it. If it's good, why not buy from "clowns"? If someone
- outrageously exploits people or the environment, that makes a
- good reason not to buy from him at all, but if I don't like
- someone I can still buy from him.
- The only problem I have with the Tramiels is that it seems their
- main goal is making money, not making good computers. But this is
- the nineties and just about every company seems to act like that.
-
- >I have just purchased a system which costs the same as 5-6 Falcon computers.
- >It offers all I would ever want and much more. I know it will be supported
- >and supported well. Software is available everywhere and I can go and buy
- >anything for it everywhere.
-
- Of course, if you can afford to spend about DM 15,000.-- for a
- computer, it makes no sense even to think of a Falcon. However,
- for people who don't want to spend more than DM 3,000.-- a Falcon
- makes much more sense than the other choices they have in many
- cases.
-
- Greetinx, Jan
-
- +- Jan Kim -- X.400: S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
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