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- From: slb1b@cc.usu.edu (Holographic Banana)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: 68010
- Message-ID: <1992Sep11.193814.58831@cc.usu.edu>
- Date: 11 Sep 92 19:38:14 MDT
- References: <1992Sep6.180145.17394@cs.mun.ca> <starman.039m@crash.amigans.gen.nz> <4444@equinox.unr.edu>
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- In article <4444@equinox.unr.edu>, dollens@equinox.unr.edu (C Blake Dollens) writes:
- > Someone on a local BBS suggested to me recently that a 68010 processor supports
- > virtual memory. My immediate response was no, because you need a PMMU for that
- > purpose. On the other hand, I realize that I know very little about the '010
-
- I was about to say NO when I pulled off Motorolla's Programmer's Reference
- Manual. Page 1-8 (in part, I'm not typing the whole thing!)
-
- "...The MC68010/MC68012 provides hardware support for virtual memory with the
- capability of suspending an instruction's execution when a bus error is
- signaled and then completing the instruction after the physical memory has been
- updated as necessary.
-
- "The MC68010/MC68012 uses instruction continueation rather than instruction
- restart to support virtual memory.... when a page fault occurs the processor
- stores its internal state and then after the page fault is repaired, restores
- that internal state and continues execution of the instruction. In order for
- the MC68010/MC68012 to utilize instruction continuation, it stores its internal
- state on the supervisor stack when a bus cycle is terminated with a buss error
- signal. It then loads the program counter from vector table entry number tow
- (offset $008) and resumes program execution at the new address. When the bus
- error execption hander routine has completed execution, and RTE instruction is
- executed which reloads the MC68010/MC68012 with the internal state stored on
- the stack, re-runs the faulted bus cycle, and continues the suspended
- instruction....."
-
-
- This seems like a messy way to do it with MMUs available on the '020 and
- better. But an interesting intelectual exercize. Am I wrong in thinking that
- the entire 16Mb address area is mapped on the A500? If so, it would render the
- aforementioned capability useless.
-
- In a nutshell, VM is not available on the '010 in any practical sense.
-
- Comments, people?????
-
- .
- > Am I right? What is the difference between the 68000 and the 68010? I was
- > under the impression that the '010 had slightly more efficient instruction code
- > in some areas, and that's all. Benchmarks wouldn't increase with an '010
- > significantly, would they? I think this was covered in this newsgroup a while
- > back; I apologize if everybody's already heard this. Thanks in advance.
-
- The speed-up issue is one of great contention. The type of stuff that I use and
- program for makes use of the optimised instructions, but the best that I ever
- see is at MOST 40%, but this is in rare cases. I've had the '010 in my A500 for
- three years, and the difference is noticable, but nothing to get excited over.
-
- This is got to be one of the most controversial subject: '010 replacement vs.
- leaving the bloody case on the A500 :-)
-
- > "That's All" | "Fundamentally, every bar is the same as every other
- > -Phil, Mike, and Tony | one, if it's the kind you're drinking in, to end a
- > Blake Dollens | sentence with a preposition, which I haven't."
- > dollens@equinox.unr.edu | -Walter Slovotsky
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- I love the joking around about dangling
- prepositions in those books!
-
- James
-
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-