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- Path: sparky!uunet!bif!vic
- From: vic@cd.com (Vic Serbe)
- Subject: Re: GVP memory question...
- Message-ID: <Bu2Ip3.9qA@cd.com>
- Keywords: how?
- Organization: Central Data Corp., Champaign, IL
- References: <1992Sep3.200909.6918@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:12:38 GMT
- Lines: 62
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- In article <1992Sep3.200909.6918@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:
- >I'm considering getting myself a GVP G-Force 030 Combo-25/1 or 40/4
- >but I'd like to know a little more about the memory arrangement...
- >
- >The 25/1 comes with 1Mb and is expandable to 13Mb with the addition of
- >three SIMMs.
- >
- >The 40/4 comes with 4Mb and is expandable to 16Mb with the addition of
- >three SIMMs.
- >
- >The question is, how are they doing this? Consider the 25/1. Initially,
- >it has one meg with it. Is it 8, 16, or 32-bit wide? How do (or CAN)
- >they combine a 1Mb memory with 4Mx24 to achieve 32-bit wide memory?? I
- >suspect the board doesn't really use 32-bit wide memory, and thus I am
- >hesitant to purchase it.
-
- I have the 25/1, but it's now a 25/5, because I added 1 4MB SIMM. GVP
- has custom SIMMs. They're custom because EACH SIMM is 32 bits wide.
- The good news, is that memory upgrades are easy. You don't have to
- worry about how many SIMMs of what type to get to add a certain amount
- of memory. The bad news, is they're custom and there's only one place
- to get them. The consolation prize, is that, per meg, they're not that
- much more expensive than PC memory (the commodity part price guide
- :]).
-
- >Next consider the 40/4. Is the 4Mb initially present 32-bit wide? If
-
- Yes. All GVP accelerator memory is 32bits wide. Period.
-
- >so, does the addition of three SIMMs reconfigure the board (perhaps
- >with a jumper change) such that this memory is then part of a 32-bit wide
- >block of 16Mb? This is strange!
-
- The Amiga has an 8MB limitation for shared memory, but the 030/040
- cards make use of local memory that they call extended memory. The
- shared memory is the only place a hard disk controller can DMA
- directly into, but ALL the local memory can be used by the 030/040 for
- applications. There is a special case with GVP in which their own SCSI
- cards can DMA into their own extended memory, but that's a benefit
- specific to GVP (as far as I know).
-
- Remember, it's the 68000 that has the 16MB limit on memory size, not
- the 030/040. Anything local to the 030 is usable by the 030. The
- shared part of the Amiga is 8MB of application address space, 2MB of
- chip address space, and 6MB of (I think) (custom chip register) space.
-
- >What's going on here? If someone could help me out, I'd appreciate it!
- >I certainly don't want to get stuck with an 030 board using any non-32-bit
- >memory design.
-
- You won't. GVP is the best choice you could make for the Amiga (IMHO).
- I've got one of their Series II SCSI cards and the forementioned 25/5
- GForce (that way, I've got hard disk for 68K, too). I have run them
- both under 1.3 and now 2.04 with NO problems. I'm a satisfied
- customer.
-
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