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- From: pooler@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Robert Peter Poole)
- Subject: Re: 4000: Is it so great?
- Message-ID: <qr9y8hb@rpi.edu>
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- Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
- References: <1992Sep13.021205.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:47:56 GMT
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- -- Quoted article follows --
- Do you ever wonder why the Amiga has always offered hardware options to allow
- it to emulate a PC, while the IBM has never had this option for their machines?
- The answer is because the IBM is a better machine than the Amiga. Commodore
- is now releasing their new 4000, claiming its so great. Well, right now you
- can buy a 486 DX 50 MHz PC for under $3000 with 24 bit color. Or a 66 MHz for
- about the same price. All this plus incredible third party support and a user
- base that makes the Amiga's look like Downhome, USA compared to New York City.
- Another big thing in the Amiga community is its multitasking. Well, OS/2 has
- been out for the IBM for a while now, and Desqview even longer. It seems to me
- that CBM is trying to just catch up to the high echelon that the IBM is
- currently residing at. I used to own an Amiga, so I know what I'm talking
- about, and when I say the Amiga crashes inking "Whats all the fuss
- about?" Seriously folks, face the facts: The Amiga is still a couple of steps
- back on the evolution scale, and just losing ground.
- -- End of quoted article --
-
- And today, boys and girls, we are going to learn the word *flame bait*.
-
- People, this guy either posted this article because he is incredibly stupid,
- because he derives perverse pleasure from making irritating remarks and seeing
- the kinds of reactions he gets, or because he is insecure about his choice of
- operating platform and wants to prove to himself that he is right by being
- confrontational. This is similar to the mentality of a frat brother who
- gay bashes. (I'm not implying that all frat brothers do, as I know many
- brothers who are decent people, but I've seen my share of frat boys with
- severe problems, mostly stemming from confusion over their own sexuality.)
-
- But I digress...
-
- Anybody with a high school education can poke holes in some of the arguments
- this person put forth. And a computer science grad student like myself could
- argue until he's blue in the face with a total computer neophyte, which I
- suspect this person is, and not get anywhere. Clearly, the human race is
- damned to suffer the stupidity of some of its members. However, we can do
- some things to minimize the pain.
-
- I own an Amiga 3000 running Amigados 2.04. I can say with great certainty
- that my machine is much more stable than a 486 system running OS/2. Comparing
- Workbench to Desqview is a joke -- Desqview's interface is crap, and the
- company never DID do anything with Desqview X. I had to write software under
- OS/2 all summer long (it was DOS software, but I liked working in the OS/2
- environment because it multitasked tolerably well). OS/2 would be nice if
- that were the ONLY OS that ran on 80x86 machines. Unfortunately, MS-DOS
- exists, and a lot of hardware is designed for machines running MS-DOS. You
- see, OS/2 is kind of picky about sharing interrupts whereas MS-DOS is not.
- The result? Most third party expansion boards won't run correctly under
- OS/2, and setting up something as simple as a multi-line BBS under OS/2 is
- a royal pain in the ass because it can't reliably be done yet. For all its
- vaunted stability, OS/2 is not crashproof. I managed to crash it running
- simple character based MS-DOS applications. There was often no rhyme or reason
- to the crashes.
-
- While it's true that older versions (read: pre 2.0) of Amigados had problems,
- the new version is a programmer's dream. What's more, its stability is better
- than a lot of UNIX systems. And I don't have to worry about IBM and
- Microsoft duking it out over whose OS is going to reside on my machine.
-
- IBM-clone graphics options are still terribly limited. Only recently has
- local bus become an option, but even so, OS/2 still doesn't have a 32-bit
- graphics engine. It will, but think -- Amiga had the equivalent of local-bus
- from day one, and the Amiga 4000 (which has to have been in testing for
- at least a year if ADPRO supposedly supports the new chipset) has the 32 bit
- graphics chips and enhanced graphics capabilities to take the machine into
- the 90's. 256,000 colors is more than most users will be able to
- distinguish, especially in animated sequences (which is, after all, where the
- Amiga shines), making the Amiga 4000 and other AA machines extremely
- competitive with Mac-IIs running color quickdraw.
-
- I've heard some people complain about color banding even on 24-bit systems,
- but most graphics professionals will tell you that that is the result of poor
- coding, not poor hardware.
-
- The Amiga is also a computer scientist's dream because it encourages good
- programming habits, European demo writers notwithstanding. PC users continue
- to write code and use code with primitive busy-waiting and inelegant
- resource-hogging, inefficient code.
-
- The bit about the IBM emulators on the Amiga makes me laugh. IBM emulators
- exist on the Mac and on the NeXT, and can often get comparable results to
- the actual machines themselves. The same holds true for IBM emulators on
- the Amiga. Does this mean that IBM clones are superior to EVERY machine
- that emulators exist for? Not at all. We all know there's a huge installed
- base of MS-DOS software, and a lot of people are reluctant to switch from
- their old way of doing things. Emulators smooth the upgrade path.
-
- I used to be a 286 user who hated Amigas because they were "game machines,"
- not worth a serious programmer's time. When I got shafted by the Intel-based
- industry six months after my purchase, I took a hard look at the situation.
- I traded my 286 for an Amiga 500 (yes, you read that right) and was immediately
- struck by how much smoother the multitasking on a 68000 was than on my 286.
- (Just for comparison, I have an undergraduate friend who claims that his
- 8 MHz 68000 Macintosh can still outperform a 486 doing certain tasks, which
- doesn't surprise me.) I upgraded to the 3000 when I could, and honestly, I
- don't feel shafted in the slightest knowing that the new chipset is available
- in the Amiga 4000. Why? Because I know I have an upgrade path, and I know my
- machine is not obsolescent because some chip manufacturer suddenly decided it
- was time...
-
- (I almost bought a NeXT station but ultimately decided that the Mach kernal
- sucks rocks, and the color options just weren't that appealing on that
- platform.)
-
- Rob Poole
- pooler@rpi.edu
- pooler@cs.rpi.edu
-