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- From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
- Subject: Re: Borland NZ complaints (longish)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep15.100401.21521@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
- Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
- References: <1992Sep15.064208.25085@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:04:01 GMT
- Lines: 101
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- In <1992Sep15.064208.25085@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) writes:
-
- I usually solve this sort of problem by using a great little utility call
- DISKDUPE available from normal SIMTEL-20 sites and its mirrors. You can dupe
- 5 1/4 disks with its 1.2MB format into a HD 3 1/2 as 1.2MB format. Great isn't
- it?
-
- >Posted for a Usenet-challenged friend....
- > -----------------------
- >Am I a whinger or what?
-
- >When Borland (NZ) released the BC3.1 upgrade I trotted along tuit-suite as fast
- >as my little legs would carry me only to find out that they'd sold all the 3.5"
- >copies and I'd have to make do with a 5.25" one. No problem... my machine's
- >got two drives so I could install it off B:.
-
- >Software was installed ... no worries. Bit short on disk space here so I just
- >installed what I needed, not the whole 50MB or so.
-
- >Today I needed to install the said BC3.1 onto a PS/2 which only has a 3.5"
- >drive (before you complain "copyright".. this is a machine that I use on-site
- >so according to Borland's copyright I'm entitled to have a copy on two machines
- >providing only one is in use at any time.. I can't be in two places at once
- ><grin>).
-
- >Anyway.. I digress
-
- >I spent about an hour copying the 18 5.25" disks onto the same number of 3.5"
- >disks (formatting then using XCOPY). Off I went to the site in town and
- >commenced to install BC3.1 using my 3.5" disks.
-
- >All went well until suddenly the install program came up with an error
- >complaining that it couldn't find WINLIB.ZIP. ... guess what?
-
- >WINLIB.ZIP (or maybe it was another file, I forget) was on a disk that the
- >install program hadn't even asked for yet. In fact it had stopped asking for
- >disks at number 16 of the set of 18. Strange me thinks!
-
- >Looks as if Borland's install program is too smart for its own good.. it
- >"knows" that if you're installing off 3.5" HD media then you only need 16 disks
- >so the other 2 in my set were completely ignored.
-
- >I rang Borland.....
-
- >Borland> "Yep that's right, you can't just copy from 5.25 onto 3.5, it"
- >Borland> "won't install properly"
-
- >"I know that... can I get a 3.5" media set from you?
-
- >Borland> "Nope.. not for at least 2 months"
-
- >"What? why the delay?"
-
- >Borland> "We're not shipping them until all the orders for the upgrade"
- >Borland> "have been filled first"
-
- >"Well what do I do then <situation explained>"
-
- >Borland> "You'll just have to buy another upgrade for $100+
-
- >"But I already OWN an upgrade, I just want it on 3.5in disks!"
-
- >Borland> "Too bad"
-
- >"Maybe you could lend me a set of 3.5in disks that I could copy and return?"
-
- >Borland> "Sorry, I can't let the master disks leave the office"
-
- >"Well could *you* copy them for me?"
-
- >Borland> "Nope, sorry, I'm too busy"
-
- >"Thank you for your 'assistance', good bye"
-
- ><click>
-
- >What the hell is going on here! Is the word "support" a foreign concept to
- >these people? Sure BC3.1 is a *great* product but Borland NZ stink and with an
- >attitude like that I'm tempted to switch to Microsoft C/C++ excepting they're
- >no better.. after all it did take over a week just to get a price out of them
- >and then it was 2x the US list price.
-
- >I did solve the problem in the end by writing a program which concatenated the
- >Borland *.CA? files into a *.ZIP, then I manually unzipped the last little bit
- >and installed it by hand.
-
- > --------------------
- >Editorial notes:
-
- > - He couldn't install it onto the 5.25" system and back it up onto 3.5" system
- > since there wasn't enough room on the 5.25" one to hold it all.
- >
- > - The comment about switching to MSC should probably be taken lightly, since
- > MS NZ's support is truly appalling.
- >
- > - And you think *you* had it bad..... :-).
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