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- From: pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
- Subject: Borland NZ complaints (longish)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep15.064208.25085@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>
- Date: 15 Sep 92 06:42:08 GMT
- Sender: pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (PeterClaus Gutmann )
- Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
- Lines: 89
-
- Posted for a Usenet-challenged friend....
- -----------------------
- Am I a whinger or what?
-
- When Borland (NZ) released the BC3.1 upgrade I trotted along tuit-suite as fast
- as my little legs would carry me only to find out that they'd sold all the 3.5"
- copies and I'd have to make do with a 5.25" one. No problem... my machine's
- got two drives so I could install it off B:.
-
- Software was installed ... no worries. Bit short on disk space here so I just
- installed what I needed, not the whole 50MB or so.
-
- Today I needed to install the said BC3.1 onto a PS/2 which only has a 3.5"
- drive (before you complain "copyright".. this is a machine that I use on-site
- so according to Borland's copyright I'm entitled to have a copy on two machines
- providing only one is in use at any time.. I can't be in two places at once
- <grin>).
-
- Anyway.. I digress
-
- I spent about an hour copying the 18 5.25" disks onto the same number of 3.5"
- disks (formatting then using XCOPY). Off I went to the site in town and
- commenced to install BC3.1 using my 3.5" disks.
-
- All went well until suddenly the install program came up with an error
- complaining that it couldn't find WINLIB.ZIP. ... guess what?
-
- WINLIB.ZIP (or maybe it was another file, I forget) was on a disk that the
- install program hadn't even asked for yet. In fact it had stopped asking for
- disks at number 16 of the set of 18. Strange me thinks!
-
- Looks as if Borland's install program is too smart for its own good.. it
- "knows" that if you're installing off 3.5" HD media then you only need 16 disks
- so the other 2 in my set were completely ignored.
-
- I rang Borland.....
-
- Borland> "Yep that's right, you can't just copy from 5.25 onto 3.5, it"
- Borland> "won't install properly"
-
- "I know that... can I get a 3.5" media set from you?
-
- Borland> "Nope.. not for at least 2 months"
-
- "What? why the delay?"
-
- Borland> "We're not shipping them until all the orders for the upgrade"
- Borland> "have been filled first"
-
- "Well what do I do then <situation explained>"
-
- Borland> "You'll just have to buy another upgrade for $100+
-
- "But I already OWN an upgrade, I just want it on 3.5in disks!"
-
- Borland> "Too bad"
-
- "Maybe you could lend me a set of 3.5in disks that I could copy and return?"
-
- Borland> "Sorry, I can't let the master disks leave the office"
-
- "Well could *you* copy them for me?"
-
- Borland> "Nope, sorry, I'm too busy"
-
- "Thank you for your 'assistance', good bye"
-
- <click>
-
- What the hell is going on here! Is the word "support" a foreign concept to
- these people? Sure BC3.1 is a *great* product but Borland NZ stink and with an
- attitude like that I'm tempted to switch to Microsoft C/C++ excepting they're
- no better.. after all it did take over a week just to get a price out of them
- and then it was 2x the US list price.
-
- I did solve the problem in the end by writing a program which concatenated the
- Borland *.CA? files into a *.ZIP, then I manually unzipped the last little bit
- and installed it by hand.
-
- --------------------
- Editorial notes:
-
- - He couldn't install it onto the 5.25" system and back it up onto 3.5" system
- since there wasn't enough room on the 5.25" one to hold it all.
-
- - The comment about switching to MSC should probably be taken lightly, since
- MS NZ's support is truly appalling.
-
- - And you think *you* had it bad..... :-).
-