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- From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
- Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README?? READ THIS FIRST!!!!
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.225554.2416@novell.com>
- Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin
- References: <1992Sep4.102532.4493@fys.ruu.nl> <186a86INNcsb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1880h6INNfoh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:55:54 GMT
- Lines: 97
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- In article <1880h6INNfoh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
- >
- >In a previous article, hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft) says:
- >>You always keep files in the root-dir?
- >
- >where in the FAQ does it day to put them??? tell me....tell me...
-
- I think that Rob, like me, doesn't like to clutter up the root with
- a bunch of misc. files. I'd keep this stuff in /usr/src or
- ~root/src.
-
- >>NONSENSE. This is not a limitation of the OS, but of the filesystem.
- >>The Unix System V(R) filesystem as this limitation, and linux's standard
- >>filesystem, the minix-one, has this too. The linux DOS filesystem has
- >>a limitation of 8 with an extension of 3, the linux extended filesystem 255.
- >
- >i dont have and extended filesystem.....now tell me how to get around
- >this problem.....
-
- Sigh. He's trying to explain to you that the Minix _filesystem_ NOT
- the Linux _operating system_ is what limits you to 14 chars. If you
- really want to get around this problem, you'd pick up a copy of the
- patches for the Extended File system BUT 1) it's still in the Alpha
- stage and 2) you haven't been able to get past installing GCC 2.2.2d
- and Linux source, so for now, do like the thousands of folks who've
- been using filesystems based on AT&T SYS V and related UN*Xes have done
- - live with it.
-
-
- >why is it such bad advice????? I would love to have the instruction in the
- >FAQ.GCC, etc. work......but they didn't. So I did this.....and it worked.
-
- Do you know why the instructions you found in the FAQ and other places
- did not work? Do you know why what you did supposedly "worked"? If
- you can't explain why the instructions didn't work and why what you did
- work, are you really in any position to tell other's how to do
- something?
-
-
- OK, I'll tell you what I did and see if this helps you. Be warned that
- I am doing this from memory so there will probably be something I left
- out but maybe it will help you through the worst.
-
- I got the 2.2.2d*, binutil.tar.Z, 0.97pl1inc.tar.Z files (names are
- from memory so they may be wrong) from tsx-11 and the source (Linux
- 0.97 Pl #2) and put everything in ~root/src.
-
- I blew away /usr/src/linux, /usr/include, and /usr/g++-include
- (right path?).
-
- I installed the 0.97 Pl #2 source in /usr/src/linux.
-
- I shortened a few of the 2.2.2d* names so they would fit in 14 chars
- (e.g. 2.2.2d.misc.tar.Z became 2.2.2d.ms.tar.Z). I then edited the
- install shell script and changed the names there. Someone pointed
- out that he did not have any problems with the names being truncated
- so maybe this step is not necc.
-
- I ran the install process (sh install... 2.2.2d /usr/src/linux). It
- died for some reason (I think it was because I hadn't changed the name
- of the 0.97pl1inc file in the script) so I looked in the script, found
- out why it died and what it was expecting. I made the right fix and
- reran the script. This is a very important point I want to make -
- you've got the source to the install process right there - if something
- doesn't work you can't claim to not find out how to fix it BECAUSE THE
- SOURCE IS THERE! If you don't know how a sh script works, get a book
- on UN*X and learn! I got a book (don't recall the name) by Kaere
- Christansen (sp?) which is adequate.
-
- Anyway, that's it. I think the thing which is pissing off other
- readers is NOT that you are having problems and that you need help, but
- rather that your attitude is that the Linux world owes you something.
- If you had paid money (cash money it's called in Texas :-)), then maybe
- your attitude would be appropriate to the individual you had paid the
- money too. But you didn't, which means that in exchange for the money
- you've paid ($0.00), you get to peruse FAQs, READMEs, other misc.
- documents and ask polite questions of the net. I've had great success
- with asking the "net" for help and I like to think that it's because I
- tried to acknowledge that although no one out there owed me anything,
- I'd appreciate it if someone would help out.
-
- Also, part of the difference between trying to work within the Linux
- universe and going out and buying SCO UN*X (or whatever) (besides the
- obvious diff. in cost) is that it's a bit of an adventure. Trying to
- figure out what you need, where it is, getting it and then trying to
- make it all work for some of us is part of the fun. From the tone of
- your posts installing Linux has been a painful experience for you so
- you may want to examine WHY you are installing it. Is it because you
- want a UN*X system but can't afford a commercial one? If so, I think
- you might not find a lot of sympathy in this group.
-
- Later,
- Brendan
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