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- From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: SLIP and X386
- Summary: Step back and take a look.
- Message-ID: <1992Sep8.151235.3292@uwm.edu>
- Date: 8 Sep 92 15:12:35 GMT
- Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Sep8.151235.3292
- References: <55pnpxd.genie@netcom.com>
- Sender: news@uwm.edu (USENET News System)
- Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
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- In article <55pnpxd.genie@netcom.com> genie@netcom.com (The Genie) writes:
- [...]
- >Is it possible to use SLIP and X Windows together?
- [...]
-
- Well, let's define terms, shall we?
- (Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm doing this from memory!)
-
- IP - "Inter-net Protocol"
- This is just a protocol which allows Local Area Networds (LANs)
- to exchange data packets. While the hardware protocol on a LAN
- (such as X25 on an EtherNet) will only recognize addresses on
- it's own LAN, the IP addressing scheme allows addressing outside
- of the local (hardware) net.
-
- TCP - "Transfer Control Protocol"
- This is *another* protocol, another 'layer', which helps
- keep track of which packets of information go together and
- what applications they're coming from and going to.
- TCP rides on top of IP, just as IP rides on top of the
- LAN's hardware (which is usually an EtherNet).
-
- ka9q - " .-. .- ----. --.- " (that's Morse code :-)
- This is the call-sign of the Amateur Radio operator who
- developed the original 'ka9q' package. I forget his name.
- It was originally intended to allow bare-bones TCP/IP-like
- functionality over Amateur-X25 (AX25) packet radio nets.
- It *emulates* 'telnet' and 'ftp' using its own *built-in*
- 'knowledge' of TCP and IP. Thus, it comes in real handy for
- those machines which don't have kernel TCP/IP, since it does
- all that for itself. However, ka9q is *not* a 'service'.
- It does its own *internal* MUX/DeMUXing, and expects to have
- a *single* user. When run, it expects to have exclusive
- control of one hard-wired I/O port, and it won't share it
- with any other process, not even another ka9q.
-
- kernel TCP/IP - "The Real Thing (tm)"
- This is the ability of the Operating System to manage the
- resources necessary for TCP/IP communications. This allows
- multiple processes to access the network, ALL THROUGH THE SAME
- PHYSICAL CONNECTION, simultaneously. This *MUST* be done by
- the kernel, since it involves multiple processes all using the
- same hardware (EtherNet card, serial port, whatever...).
-
- SLIP - "Standard Line Inter-net Protocol"
- This is simply a way of using IP over a regular phone line.
- Since most of us don't have the cash to lease a high-speed line
- from the local telecom company, this is probably the next-best
- thing to being there. It's gonna be a bit slower though. :-)
- The ka9q package is especially well-adapted for SLIP, since it
- was *designed* to communicate at lower speeds through a serial
- port (and a packetizer, and a modem, and a radio transciever...)
-
- [...]
- >With packages like ka9q, is it possible to redirect all
- >tcp/ip packets to the serial modem? A true SLIP
- >connection would allow things like xhosting, etc.
- [...]
-
- Like I said, ka9q was *made* to use a serial line. However, it doesn't
- provide connections for other applications. ka9q is *not* a service.
- It's an application which *mimics* the performance of telnet and ftp
- (which use the TCP/IP service), but does all the protocol itself.
-
- If you "telnet using ka9q", you're really "ka9q'ing in telnet mode".
- Get it? The 'real' telnet program (which makes TCP/IP-related system-
- calls to the kernel) wasn't even used.
-
- telnet and ftp are like automobiles, and kernel TCP/IP is like a bridge.
- They can function, but not cross the net without kernel TCP/IP just as
- automobiles may tool around town, but not cross rivers without a bridge.
-
- ka9q is like a boat. Just as a boat is no good for driving around town,
- but can cross a river where there's no bridge, ka9q is no good for inter-
- process communication, but it can communicate on the net without the help
- of kernel TCP/IP.
-
- The same way, 'xhost' needs kernel TCP/IP. It cannot use the ka9q package,
- because ka9q is suited only to serving a single USER, not other processes.
-
- Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>
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