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- From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
- Subject: Re: 720K 5-1/4" diskettes
- Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
- Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:52:06 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Sep12.025206.2237@ksmith.uucp>
- References: <".9-Sep-92..9:31:25.EDT".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com>
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- In article <".9-Sep-92..9:31:25.EDT".*.Michael_D._Sprague.wbst311@Xerox.com> Sprague.Wbst311@xerox.com writes:
- >
- >Just to be nit-picky :-) 720K 5-1/4" drives/disks are NOT quad density,
- >though they are sometimes incorrectly called that!! The drives/disks are
- >DOUBLE DENSITY, but have twice as many TRACKS as a standard Double Density
- >drive/disk.
- >
- > ~ Mike (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)
-
- Hmm, So let's get this straight. They are double track and double
- density. 2 * 2 = 4. 4 times the density is NOT QUAD density. Got it.
-
- To pick a nit ....
-
- The org CP/M disks I had were 10 hole hard sectors with 100K per side on
- a single sided disk, basically DS/QD is 7+ times that. The issue at
- hand is DENSITY however. Density meaning how tight the bits are packed.
- Tightly packing the sectors and increasing their size to 512 bytes
- enabled us to get 180K on the side of a disk rather than the old 100K
- functionality. This basically put the "bits" almost twice as close
- together on a given track, hence "double" density. Doubling the number
- of tracks brings the bits another factor of 2 closer together hence the
- term "QUAD DENSITY" diskettes. QD diskettes were marketed extensively
- pre-ibm and clone takeover for hardware such as EPSON, OLIVETTI, SEIKO
- (Yea The watch guys sold computers!) and my Heathkit. The AT&T 3B2 used
- these puppies too. Now the quality of standard IBM "Double Density"
- 360K media is so good it will work fine as 720K "Quad Density" too.
-
- The Current Crop of AT/HD stuff is even higher than quad, packing 15 512
- byte sectors on a track instead of 9 a factor of 1.7 improvement in
- density. The 3.5" disks on the other hand STARTED at 720K which was
- called "double density" so the 1440K 18 SPT 3.5's are now often called
- "quad density" which is where the confusion may be from.
-
- The REAL density improvement on 5.25" has not "really" doubled though.
-
- Single Density = 100K per side
- Double Density = 180K per side really 1.8 density not 2
- Quad Density = 360K per side really 3.6 density but advertising you know.
- High Density = 600K per side They didn't push to "HEPT" density on
- this one :)
-
- Again this is BIT density, nothing to do with actual storage mind you.
- Also the 3.5's really started out on the HD emulsions. Now the NEW
- stuff comming out is pushing 10MB on Standard floppy style media. They
- stopped "densitizing" the names (finally, thank god) and just say
- "2.4MB" or "5MB" 5-1/4" media.
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