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- From: wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman)
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- Subject: Re: Want _Your_ Blood to Boil
- Message-ID: <1992Sep12.061049.29081@oracle.us.oracle.com>
- Date: 12 Sep 92 06:10:49 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep10.140032.9364@tijc02.uucp> pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt) writes:
- ] mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
- ] :
- ] : No, what he is saying, in effect, is that for those things which they
- ] : could use if someone else bought them, many people will not chip in
- ] : 'their share'. A study of the concepts of 'externality' and 'public
- ] : good' would seem to be in order. This is the biggest whole in the
- ] : whole libertarian economic argument.
- ] :
- ] : [See any reasonably decent economics textbook.]
- ]
- ] Are you talking about the "free rider" problem? This is dealt with in
- ] several books. One example is that if my wife grows pretty flowers,
- ] should the neighbors be forced to pay for her labor since they enjoy
- ] them? The answer is that this is not only silly but it would be immoral.
-
- No, a useful example goes like this. Who repaves the road in front
- of your house when the goverment goes berry-up? You and your neighbors,
- I suppose. Who decides the fair payment for the road repair? And what
- if one of your neighbors couldn't afford to pay for it, or just plain
- refused to? Would you *not* pave the road? Or would you try to somehow
- force the recalcitrant neighbor off the road when he tries to drive on
- it?
-
- ] Other examples are torn apart, such as the lighthouse example.
-
- How? By letting boats crash up on the shore, no matter how many
- die, or what it does to the local economy? Or do you have a method of
- extortion that's somehow "fair" under Libertarianism?
-
- The lighthouse example *is* weaker, because there's an economic
- advantage to be had by building lighthouse: fishermen make more money
- alive than dead.
-
- But there exist externalities--like roads, like police and fire
- protection, like toxic waste regulation--which have no economic
- advantage, or for which the advantage is poorly evaluated by the market,
- which should neverless be done.
-
- Forwarded to sci.econ, where this belongs, and where it can be
- properly dealt with.
-
- -- Bill K.
-
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