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- From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
- Subject: Re: Membership fee for DECUS?
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- References: <1992Aug21.120610.974@beckman.com> <1992Aug25.090559.686@fps.mcw.edu> <1992Aug25.140249.3686@spcvxb.spc.edu> <1992Aug26.140651.5007@rayssd.ssd.ray.com>,<1992Sep2.142027@mccall.com>
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- Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:25:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep2.142027@mccall.com>, tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Aug26.140651.5007@rayssd.ssd.ray.com>, m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com
- >(Barone) writes:
- >
- >I don't personally have a problem with paying, I think my company would spring
- >for it. As far as paying to vote, as long as the elections basically are a
- >crapshoot, who would? I don't see voting as a major enticement to get people to
- >pay. I'm also not real sure people would pay for DECUScope. With the newsletters
- >gone, what else can you charge money for? If you are going to ask for money, you
- >are going to have to offer a tangible benefit that will make sense to the bean
- >counters, or _many_ people will have trouble paying for it, no matter how low
- >the cost, or how great the intangible benefits.
- >
- >If this is just to make up a revenue shortfall, it'd probably be better to raise
- >prices on existing services. That's at least honest. If it is to generate new
- >revenue, what would that revenue be used for, and why can't those activities
- >generate revenue another way? If this is just to trim the mailing list, I think
- >it's a poor way to do it. An audit of some sort would be better. If the last
- >audit wasn't satisfactory (I'm guessing, since it wasn't used), that doesn't
- >invalidate the whole approach.
-
- Terry,
-
- From the discussions I've been a part of it boils down to the following
- points:
-
- 1) Claims are made that Symposium fees are too high
-
- 2) Symposium (and its related items) are the major source for DECUS
- operating funds (at least when Symp. does not lose money, then it
- is the bank accounts)
-
-
- The *theory* is that if we had a membership fee than the Symposium fee
- would only have to cover the cost of preparing for it, putting it on, and a
- truely modest profit for future insurance (i.e. when thing go wrong and
- a Symposium losses money). The other products (library, session notes, audio
- tapes, DECUServe would/could also run with having to make less profit). And
- the membership fee could be used for:
-
- 1) LUGS
- 2) DECUScope
- 3) General Overhead (Board, MC, NLC)
-
- This would allow DECUS to either lower the current fees are at least
- not raise them as much as we would normally have to do.
-
- They maybe some other general overhead things or other points that I
- can't recall. BTW, I made this proposal back before the fee increases of 1990
- (if my memory serves me right) in a DCS notes conference (either BOD or MC, I
- can't remeber which). I have not seen many recent DCS notes on the topic.
-
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- P.S. - Trival time!!
-
- 1) Before about '85 DECUS had a voting and non-voting members, anyone
- remember what they were called and when we changed?
-
- 2) What was the last year in which three (3) national symposium were held?
-
-