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From: [e-mail] (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: Bouncing Back E-mail
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From: "Carl M. Kadie" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [alt.censorship]  Re: Public posting of private e-mail.
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From: [e-mail] (Wes Morgan)
Subject:  Re: Public posting of private e-mail.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 13:23:53 GMT

[e-mail] (Seth Bradley) writes:
>I agree that one should be able to stop offending e-mail.

Sure!  There are several "mail filtering" programs available; one of the
best of these is "procmail", which is availabel from many FTP sites.  Get
procmail and install it; you can then filter your mail to your heart's
content.

>However, before
>one posts private e-mail, there is another step that can be taken, namely
>mailing to the offender's sysadmin.  From (second hand) personal experience,
>this is often effective.
> [ ... ]
>The main point is, talking to a sysadmin is likely to be far more
>effective than posting e-mail.

The effectiveness of "talking to a sysadmin" varies greatly.  If the site
is commercial, you may very well succeed.  If, however, the site is aca-
demic, your chances are "not so good".

I'm the sysadmin for the UK College of Engineering (engr.uky.edu, NOT
ms.uky.edu (from which this posting originates)), and I routinely receive
messages such as "your user XXXX called me a YYYYY on the mailing list!
Terminate his email NOW!".  I usually get a chuckle from this.  I've never
rescinded a user's email privileges; with the exception of illegal activi-
ties (emailing pirate software after repeated warnings, for example), I
doubt that I ever will.

One must accept the good with the bad.  If you enjoy full communications
privileges (and wish them extended to others), you WILL, eventually, be
offended.  It's part of the virtual territory.

--Wes

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From caf-talk Caf Mar  5 00:00:00 1992
Newsgroups: uiuc.cs.problems
From: [e-mail] (Brygg Ullmer)
Subject: Article 11--Re: Is there a way I can block-out certain e-mail?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:40:36 GMT

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Khaled S. Soufi) writes:

>I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any simple (?!) way to
>block-out certain people (addresses) from sending e-mail to me!  I
>guess I can write a little utility that can search my mail file and
>delete all messages that came from undesirable addresses but is there
>anything better than that?  Thanks in advance for any *wise*
>suggestion.

Yes... you can use the filter program, if elm has been installed on your
system.  If you haven't run elm before, run it once so that it can create
the appropriate directories in your account.  Then, you have filter invoked
by the reception of new mail by putting "| /usr/local/bin/filter" (with the
quotes) in your .forward file (the directory may be different from system
to system; type "which filter" to get the appropriate directory).  Finally,
you set up a filter-rules file in your .elm directory, which might contain
the following:

if (from contains "unwanted-person-name") then save unwanted.message
#alternatively, replace "save unwanted..." with "delete"
if (always) then leave

Be sure to check your filter-rules out for proper working order by
running "filter -n < sample.msg" on both messages which should be deleted and
messages which should be saved (including the header); filter will tell you what
it would do with the message if run with the current filter-rules.

Check the filter man page for more information.

Brygg Ullmer


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From caf-talk Caf Mar  5 00:00:00 1992
Newsgroups: uiuc.cs.problems
From: [e-mail] (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Article 12--Re: Is there a way I can block-out certain e-mail?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 02:19:36 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Khaled S. Soufi) writes:
|> I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any simple (?!) way to
|> block-out certain people (addresses) from sending e-mail to me!  I
|> guess I can write a little utility that can search my mail file and
|> delete all messages that came from undesirable addresses but is there
|> anything better than that?  Thanks in advance for any *wise*
|> suggestion.
 +------------------------------------+--------------------------+

I suggest using MH.  There are manuals in the library.  Basically, you can create a .forward file that looks like this:

"| /local/lib/mh/slocal -user schwager"

and then you can have a mail delivery file that looks like this:

from nastyperson qpipe ?: "/bin/cat > /dev/null 2>&1"
addr schwager qpipe ?: "/local/lib/mh/rcvstore +Sysadm"

Automagic!

Many more configuration options are available.
-Mike



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