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- From: bcs@waikato.ac.nz
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- Subject: Summary: free CL + CLOS?
- Message-ID: <1992Sep6.161128.10627@waikato.ac.nz>
- Date: 6 Sep 92 16:11:28 +1200
- Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand
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- Thanx to all who responded to my queries for a Common Lisp with CLOS, the
- net wins out again over all conventional reference sources 8-)
-
- Summary:
-
- Many people pointed me towards pcl as a reliable CLOS implementation
- (conformance was questioned by a couple of people), which might/might be
- made to/definately does run under akcl.
-
- Glen Diener (grd@ccrma.Stanford.EDU)
- Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU)
- Tim Bradshaw <tim.bradshaw@edinburgh.ac.uk>
- Barry Margolin <barmar@Think.COM>
- Jim Levins (jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au)
- Bill Vrotney (bvrotney@ads.com)
- Trent Lange (lange@CS.UCLA.EDU)
- Jake ? (jake@skatter.usask.ca)
- Bill ? (bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU)
-
- Many of these people also extolled the virtues (robustness, speed, fine
- error checking) of the CMU CL system, which apparently uses pcl itself, as
- did ted@NMSU.Edu. The vote seems to be with this system (CMU CL) by quite
- some margin, but...
-
- I actually wanted a system for NeXT workstations, and in one of the two
- queries I even remembered to say so!
-
- Gregory Lampshire (gbol@orion.async.vt.edu) and k (asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu)
- both pointed out that there is a ready-to-run image of akcl 615 + pcl in
- the NeXT archives, and so there is:
-
- sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/submissions/akcl-615-pcl-image.{README,tar.Z}
-
- I have uplifted this, but not yet tried it. Am actually a bit nervous
- about the NeXT community's habit of supplying binaries on the archives.
- It's not as if NeXT are planning to unbundle the compiler like some I might
- mention....are they?
-
- Important quotes: (names omitted to protect the innocent)
- ----------------
- |The CMU CL group has decided that it would not make sense to port CMU CL to
- |the NeXT. If you complain to them (email slisp@cs.cmu.edu) it would be one
- |more reason why they were wrong about this.
-
- |AKCL does run under NeXTstep 2.0 and 3.0 (a patch is needed to run under
- |3.0). You can get CLOS at parcftp.xerox.com /pub/pcl = latest pcls. I
- |compiled the latest PCL under AKCL NeXTstep 2.0 and it ran fine, the same
- |should be true of NeXTstep 3.0 since PCL (CLOS) is written in pure Common
- |Lisp.
-
- |The file parcftp.xerox.com:/pub/pcl/March-92-systems.tar.Z
- |contains the systems PCL (March 92 3a), CLCS, CLX (X11R5),
- |and an inspecter. The top level directory in this file
- |contains a defsystem facility that can load everything.
- |All you need to do is load the file "systems.lisp".
- |The top level directory also contains a makefile for akcl.
- |You need to edit the first few lines of the makefile before
- |using it.
-
- Thanx once more people,
-
- +-Brent Summers, U of Waikato, NZ----------------------------------------+
- | "Laugh and the world ignores you. Crying doesn't help either." |
- | All opinions expressed are, of course, solely my own errors. |
- +------------------------------------------------------bcs@waikato.ac.nz-+
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