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- From: slix@svcs1.UUCP (Bill Miller)
- Newsgroups: comp.emacs
- Subject: switching over from DOS Demacs to Emacs under 386BSD Unix
- Keywords: Demacs,Emacs,files
- Message-ID: <705@svcs1.UUCP>
- Date: 5 Sep 92 22:24:27 GMT
- Organization: Silicon Valley Computer Society, Sunnyvale, CA
- Lines: 49
-
- Hi.
-
- I've recently switched over from using DOS Demacs to GNU Emacs with
- 386bsd unix.
-
- I was able to get the binary for it from someone at a local user group,
- but since I had no support files, or documentation, I decided to get
- all that stuff from the Demacs I already had - files like emacs.1, emacs.2,
- the macros, etc. I am having some trouble installing this.
-
- First of all, I put the "emacs.[1-13]" and "info" and "doc" files into
- /usr/local/emacs/info, but the system still wants and can't find files like
- DOC-18.58.[1-13] in /usr/local/emacs/etc. From doing some experimentation
- (I actually had the emacs.[1-13] files renamed to DOC-18.58.[1-13] in the
- /usr/local/emacs/etc directory, but info wouldn't work. It sounds like
- I need two copies of the same thing in both directories. If this is true,
- I don't see a need to duplicate 13 or so files in two directories. The
- Demacs didn't have to do this. Unfortunately, DOS doesn't have linked
- files, so perhaps I should create links for all these files, right?
-
- Secondly, after moving them over from the DOS Demacs port, I had to
- strip out the excess line feeds in the files. When I did this, the
- offsets changed: i.e., the numbers or tags to tell Emacs where to look
- in the doc files to find info for commands with describe-key-briefly are
- all screwed up. As a result, describe-key-briefly will display wrong
- text for the command or key that the help is requsted for.
-
- Third, it appears I'm missing some macros. I'm using the "GNU Emacs
- Manual for version 18, March 1987" as a guide for both Emacs and Demacs and
- many of the commands don't seem to work. For example, when I do things like
- mark-rectangle, it says "can't load file rect." Other "fun" stuff
- documented in the manual, such as M-x dissociate, M-x sort, etc., just
- won't run. Apparently these are all macros (because it can't load the
- respective file) and Demacs (which wouldn't do these things either) just
- didn't provide these macros. If these are still provided, where can I
- get them?
-
- Next, I'm having a lot of trouble with ibmpc.el in Demacs, which is used
- to set up IBM-PC specific keys, such as arrow, cursor position and function
- keys. These work OK in Demacs but I can't get them to work at all in the
- Unix version. On the command line, for instance, up-arrow emits "^[[A",so
- I figured I needed to send that keystroke sequence but that doesn't work.
- In fact, it seems I'm just duplicating what emacs already does under 386bsd,
- since stuff like up-arrow moves the cursor about 1 paragraph up and inserts
- an A which clearly isn't what I wish. What I would like is to make the
- arrow keys do what's expected.
-
- Answers greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
- :w
-