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- From: ai@grepstation.berkeley.edu (Albert Ienstein)
- Newsgroups: comp.ai
- Subject: Re: What really is AI?
- Date: 16 Sep 1992 02:31:50 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- In article <92253.145425KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> in newsgroup comp.ai, at
- 9 Sep 92 21:54:25 GMT, Jon L. Campbell <KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
- from Arizona State University posted via path agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!\
- overload.lbl.gov!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!cs.widener.edu!ukma!\
- asuvax!asuacad!kvjlc a message 100 lines long with no keywords but
- the subject "What really is AI?" a message which contains the
- following dialog which I have excerpted and responded with:
-
- > For the sake of argument, I'd like to propose a discussion about AI.
-
- Why should you get to propose?
-
- > Exploring what AI is or isn't and the boundaries of logic.
-
- What makes you believe that?
-
- > From what I have gathered in the past few years, AI is or isn't
- > software and/or hardware or a combination of the two.
-
- Earlier you said you would like to propose?
-
- > Lisp, expert systems, fuzzy logic, etc. are all professed to be, in
- > one form or another, AI.
-
- Maybe your plans have something to do with this.
-
- > True? Maybe, but then again maybe taken as a whole they would
- > constitute a portion of the qualities that make AI.
-
- When did you first know that then again maybe taken as a whole they
- would constitute a portion of the qualities that make ai?
-
- > The brain is a component of AI, insomuch that it is a dependent
- > peice of hardware that requires a certain amount of input before a
- > decision can be made -- be it the right decision or not is not
- > important.
-
- Is the fact that it is a dependent peice of hardware that requires a
- certain amount of input before a decision can be made be it the right
- decision or not is not important the real reason?
-
- And oh yeah, you SHMUCK, you misspelled "piece". Get it right next time.
-
- > The brain is or isn't a fully functional AI component without all of
- > the other functions that it needs to process the input.
-
- Have you been obsessed with to process?
-
- > There are numerous inputs that influence the basic
- > decision process at the most elementary AI model of human behaviour.
-
- Is it because influence the basic decision process at the most
- elementary ai model of human behaviour that you came to me?
-
- > These inputs are processed at a level that requires the least amount
- > of synaps connectivity.
-
- Did you ever regret requires the least amount of synaps connectivity?
-
- > Computational logic also has a set of inputs, yet solving mathematical
- > problems does not use the same set of rules that were used to process
- > common bodily functions (i.e. breathing)
-
- Tell me about something about math.
-
- (a bit of the letter deleted)
-
- > Which are stored ~ memory ~ recall ~ expanded ~ learned ~ stored ~~.
- > _ + _ - | _
- > | | | Variations |
- > |________|_________|__________| | |
- > |_____________|_____________|_____|
- >
- > Software Hardware
- > * note: Hypothetical __ __
- > |________________|
- > |
- > AI
-
- I need a little more detail please.
-
-
- Albert
-