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- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.l-vmctr
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:27:10 EDT
- Sender: VMCENTER Components Discussion List <L-VMCTR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
- From: Mike Ramundo <SYSMRR@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
- Subject: listserv vs FTP
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- Hi All,
- Hopefully, the demand for SCI to get some type of non-ibm net access
- will continue to build. What I'd like to get, before sending my letter to
- SCI, is a clear picture of what I expect from any vendor ( not that I have
- gotten all or even most of the following from any one vendor ). I will
- list below what I feel an appropriate minimum service ( based on features
- of LISTSERV and a flexible ( Rice ? ) mailer along with what I feel to be
- justification. Please post your comments/additions/alternatives to either
- me or the list.
-
- 1) I have been keeping a log of my 1st class mail - critical + warning
- type letters especially. Those via U.S.Mail reach me anywhere from
- 1 to 12 days after the postmark date, average time 4. UPS ( tapes
- and doc ) average 3 days. If someone finds something that could
- cause my system to hang or stop, I want to know within minutes, not
- days - and be able to apply fix or preventative notice within same
- amount of time.
-
- therefore, I propose:
-
- SCI connect to bitnet or internet with rice mailer or equivalent and
- install listserv or equivalent on one of their mainframes.
-
- A list should be created for each product/major-release. That is,
- there should be separate lists for VMX43 and VMX44. ( probably separate
- lists for /E versions also ). Users should be able to 'subscribe' to
- a product list and:
-
- 1) Receive notice whenever a possible problem is logged
- 2) Receive notice whenever a fix is released
- 3) using the 'get' command, request at any time:
- a) the summary file of fixes for a product
- b) any fixes available for the product
- c) a summary file of open problems for the product
- (anyone care to suggest name/suffix for this file ? )
-
- When a site upgrades from one version of a product to another, it would
- only take moments to unsub from one list and sub to the other list.
-
- I think that item 3c might be one of the most critical items, I have
- learned ( since I first played with a 1620 ) never to be on the bleeding,
- I mean leading edge, unless you are strictly a test/development site or
- have a test/development system. With IBM and with SCI, I have felt most
- comfortable staying about 11 months behind the 'edge'. I would love
- to be able to see what problems are reported AND STILL OPEN when I am
- looking at a new version and am trying to decide if/when to upgrade -
- the current summary file tells me what was fixed, not what, if anything,
- is still broken/incomplete.
-
- I suggest that generic mail-ids be set up to handle much of the
- data that currently comes in via phone. Names like VMXPROB, CPUIDs,
- INSTALL could receive mail which could then be routed to the next
- available rep directly, or pulled into the current tracking system.
- ( Since a great percentage of times, a caller ends up leaving name and
- number anyway, this method would be at least as quick getting a problem
- into the queue and the ability to include accurate and detailed info
- with the original message might make it possible for rep to have
- solution ready at first callback rather then one call to collect data
- then another call with the solution. Ongoing problems, requests for
- additional data or output, suggested tests, could all be communicated
- quickly, accurately and directly between the customer and tec rep.
-
- I hope this stimulates some discussion of the details of how
- software support ( from any vendor ) SHOULD work. I'm sure I've
- missed at least a few items - don't hesitate to jump in with more/
- better ideas
- mike
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