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Xref: sparky vmsnet.misc:788 comp.os.vms:14402 news.answers:2705 Path: sparky!uunet!dmc.com!munroe Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc,comp.os.vms,news.answers Subject: Info-VAX: How to find VAX/VMS software. Message-ID: <info-vax-4.19920901.093133@dmc.com> From: munroe@dmc.com Date: 1 Sep 92 09:32:18 EDT Followup-To: vmsnet.misc Expires: 13 Oct 92 00:00:00 GMT References: <info-vax-1.19920901.093133@dmc.com> Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, Ma. 01749, USA Approved: munroe@dmc.com Supersedes: <info-vax-4.19920901.093022@dmc.com> Lines: 525 Archive-name: info-vax/part04 Last-modified: 1992/08/04 [Changes since last posting: New FAQ.] The Info-VAX Monthly Posting ---------------------------- PART 4 -- How to find software. (Coordinated by Dick Munroe, written by many others) (Part 1 is an introduction to Info-VAX. Part 2 is Beginner Common Questions. Part 3 is Advanced Common Questions.) This is NOT an introduction to navigation on the Internet. Nor is it intended to supplant other official "how to find ..." FAQs. It is intended to be a collection of pointers to commonly used/requested VMS software. Whenever possible the pointers will be to the "official" support site. Pointers to widely known software archives will be included here from time to time. In general, all of the software discussed here either has been or soon will be available from DECUS either as a seperate package or on the DECUS CDROMs. If all else fails, you can always get things through your local DECUS librarian or [shudder] buy your own copy. I'm also soliciting reviews of any of the software discussed in here from users. Thanks, Dick Munroe Save this message for future reference! Table of Contents: ,ANUNEWS -- How to get your own copy of ANU News 02-Aug-92 Billy Barron <billy@sol.acs.unt.edu> ,BBS -- Is there a VAX based BBS available? 02-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,CMUTEK-TCP/IP -- Where to order CMUTEK 04-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,FAQFINDING -- Sources for Frequently Asked Questions 04-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,FILESERV -- Addresses of various mail based file servers. 02-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,FTP -- Addresses of various FTP sites. 02-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,FTPMAIL -- How to access FTP without an Internet Connection 02-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,GCC -- See ,GNUSOFT 02-Aug-92 ,GNUSOFT -- How to find GNU software 02-Aug-92 Dick Munroe <munroe@dmc.com> ,MX -- How to get a copy of the Message Exchanger 02-Aug-92 Hunter Goatley <goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET> ,UUCP -- *how* to get decus uucp V2.0 02-Aug-92 Kent C. Brodie <brodie@fps.mcw.edu> ,ZOO -- Where to get ZOO v2.10 for MS-DOS, Unix and VMS 09-Aug-92 Keith Petersen <w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil>, The SIMTEL20 Archives (the ",UUCP", etc are keywords. If you search for that text (including the ",") you will be brought to the beginning of that article.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,ANUNEWS (Ed. Note -- This was cribbed from the news.software.anu-news FAQ. There is an alpha version of ANU News, 6.1a4 that is available as well. I don't know if it is available from these sites as well, but I believe it is. 6.1a4 is packaged as part of the UUCP 2.0 release, so if you're getting that, you don't need to get a copy unless you want to get the documentation/sources. Dick Munroe) >From: billy@sol.acs.unt.edu (Billy Barron - VAX/UNIX Systems Manager) >Subject:FAQ: news.software.anu-news >... >Q: How do I acquire a copy of ANU News? >A: ANU News is available for anonymous FTP on sao.aarnet.edu.au (Australia) > and kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Kansas, USA). Other sites may also have it > available. Please use the site closest to you. There are two versions > available: a normal backup saveset and a LZW compressed version of the > backup savesets. VMS LZW programs are available on kuhub.cc.ukans.edu > also and through DECUS. For network load reasons, it is preferable if you > acquire LZW and the compressed version of ANU NEWS. > > The Glass patch was posted to the newsgroup after V6.0-2 was released. The > archives for the newsgroup are accessable from listserv@vm1.nodak.edu. > > here's an example of what you should send to listserv@vm1.nodak.edu: > > //ListSrch JOB Echo=No,Reply-via=mail > Database Search DD=Rules > //Rules DD * > Select glass v6.0-3 patch in anu-news since 1-jan-1991 > print > /* > > i believe you can send mail there with a subject (or is it body?) > of "help", and it'll send help. > > there's also a news fileserver at fileserv@dayton.saic.com. commands are > like: > send news_v60-3_patch.19 > send news_v60-3_patch.2% > send news_v60-3_patch.18 > and i imagine the help thing works there, too.. > >... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,BBS The only public domain VAX based BBS that I know of is available from: MAILSERV@ualr.edu Start by sending a message to the mailserv with the body of the message being: HELP INDEX And go from there. A copy of this BBS has been posted to VMSNET.SOURCES, so it should also be available from an archive site near you. There is at least one commercially developed BBS available (I'm not an owner or user of this software, I just know about it). Contact OMTOOL in Salem, New Hampshire, USA for details. If anybody knows of other commercial or public domain BBSs for VMS, please contact me so I can update this listing. Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,CMUTEK-TCP/IP Carnegie Mellon University provides, at a nominal charge, an implementation of TCP/IP for VAX/VMS. For people who want to investigate the TCP/IP world this can be a great way to start. The following contacts are taken from "The Joy of TEK, the sequal" for version 6.6: Marc A. Shannon Miscellaneous do-it-er (412) 268-6290 synful@cmutek.cc.cmu.edu UCC 191 4910 Forbes Ave. Pittsburgh, Pa. 15213-3890 Eileen Bullister Maker of tapes, Taker of orders (412) 268-5896 tcpip+@andrew.cmu.edu UCC 102 4910 Forbes Ave. Pittsburgh, Pa. 15213-3890 The software is supported by its user community with help on an as able basis from the development team (Marc). The mailing list is gatewayed to the vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.cmu-tek newsgroup. You can subscribe to the mailing list itself by sending mail to cmu-tek-tcp-request@cmutek.cc.cmu.edu. Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,FAQFINDING The news.answers news group is the official vehicle for publication of frequently asked questions digests (including this one). For those of you without access to News, there is an alternative: DMConnection archives news.answers and makes it available to the general public. Send a message to fileserv@dmc.com with the body of the message containing the line: help to get started. Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,FILESERV The following mail servers deal primarily with VMS software. Instructions on their use and content appear regularly in the vmsnet.sources.d, vmsnet.misc, and vmsnet.tpu newsgroups. Address Maintainer MAILSERV@Cerritos.EDU. Bruce Tanner <tanner@cerritos.edu> nrl_archive@nrlvax.nrl.navy.mil koffley@nrlvax.nrl.navy.mil VMSSERV@NYUACF.BITNET Stephen Tihor <tihor@acf4.nyu.edu> FILESERV@SHSU.BITNET or TPU Command Procedures Collection FILESERV@SHSU.EDU FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET Hunter Goatley <goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET> Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,FTP The following FTP sites have significant collections of VMS software. More complete lists of anonymous FTP sites and their contents appear regularly in the news.answers newsgroup. The following ftp sites and their content are discussed fully in vmsnet.sources.d. Address Maintainer acfcluster.nyu.edu Stephen Tihor <tihor@acf4.nyu.edu> Black.Cerritos.EDU Bruce Tanner <tanner@cerritos.edu> ftp.spc.edu White.Cerritos.EDU Bruce Tanner <tanner@cerritos.edu> Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,FTPMAIL Like many sites dmc.com is not directly connected to the internet (yet!). Yet much of the software or information we want access to is not available from mail servers. In the United States (there may be other sites, but I've never had reason to access them) I have found the FTPMAIL service of DEC Western Research Labs to be invaluable. To get information, send a message to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com with a message body consisting of the single line: help ftpmail and other mechanisms are discussed periodically in the news.answers newsgroup. Good Luck, Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,GCC ,GNUSOFT The official FTP site for all GNU software is prep.ai.mit.edu. They even have the basics there for GCC. For those of you interested in G++ (the GNU C++ compiler) for VMS you should try FTP from mango.rsmas.miami.edu. They keep current copies of G++ and G++lib in VMS installable form available. I have also found a mail based file server, MRCServ@mtroyal.ab.ca which also keeps current copies of G++ and G++lib in VMS installable form. Good Luck, Dick Munroe -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,MX >From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" <goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET> >Subject:New e-mail fileserver: MXSERVER@WKUVX1.BITNET >OK, I'm setting up an experiment.... > >Some of you have been asking about getting MX031 via e-mail because >you don't have access to anonymous ftp. Well, I (finally) packaged up >MX031 and created a new file server on my system. To the new file >server is MXSERVER@WKUVX1.BITNET. MX will *not* be available from >FILESERV because I want to try to limit when the files go out. > >MX031 is a VMS_SHARE file in 113 parts (60 blocks)---that's pretty >big. Unlike the way Matt used to set it up, I've (for the time being) >created one big .MFTU file containing all the VMSINSTAL savesets. >The only caveat at the moment is that MXSERVER files are only sent >between 5PM CDT and 6AM CDT. If very many people request MX031, my >poor 9600-baud BITNET link will take a while to let everything go >through. > >SO: > > a) please be patient---it may take several days for everything to > make it through > b) MX_REVC_UPGRADE031 has also been moved from FILESERV to MXSERVER > (use SEND MX_REVC_UPGRADE031) > c) don't everybody ask for it at once > d) this is an experiment---depending on how things go, I may have to > limit the number of files a person can get in a day, etc. > >Of course, MX is available via ftp from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX]. > >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University >goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,UUCP >Subject: HOW to get decus uucp (last time... really!) >From: brodie@fps.mcw.edu > > UUCP_INFO.TXT > -or- >"The canned answer given to folks who want to get a copy of DECUS UUCP" > >Last Revision: 7/28/92 Kent C. Brodie (brodie@fps.mcw.edu) > -or- fps!brodie) > > >How to get DECUS UUCP (Version 2.0): > >DECUS UUCP, distributed by the DECUS "VMSNET" working group, is a complete >implementation of UUCP for VMS. It is becoming one of the most popular >"packages" offered from DECUS, and for many VAX sites, it's their only >way to get to the internet. This file describes how you may >obtain your very own copy of the software for little or no cost. > > >1) via DECUS. By far the most popular method of obtaining DECUS UUCP > is through the VAX SIG TAPES distributed by the DECUS librarians. The > tapes (now available on CDROM, too!) do not cost much (or nothing at all > if you obtain them via your LUG librarian), and you'll get > TONS of stuff besides "just" UUCP. Contact your local DECUS tape > librarian, and find out how you can get the latest set of DECUS tapes. > (You can also order them through the DECUS LIBRARY) > > NOTE: > * decus UUCP (V2.0) is NOW available on the SPRING 1992 tapes > * decus UUCP (V1.3) last appeared on the FALL 1990 tapes > >2) using FTP via the INTERNET. DECUS UUCP (V2.0) is available via anonymous > ftp from the following sites: > > ftp.spc.edu directory [.decus_uucp] > Address: 192.107.46.27 > (maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu) > ftp.uu.net directory /systems/vms/uucp > Address: 137.39.1.9 > (maintained by the folks at uunet) > mis1.mis.mcw.edu directory [.decus_uucp] > Address: 141.106.64.11 > (maintained by brodie@mis.mcw.edu) > mvb.saic.com directory [.decus_uucp] > Address: 139.121.19.1 > (maintained by Mark.berryman@mvb.saic.com) > > "mis1.mis.mcw.edu" is the ftp site that *I* maintain, and any > updates I receive will be immediately passed down to the other sites > shown above. > > The contents if the [.decus_uucp] directory should have the following: > (file sizes listed are VMS disk blocks [=512 bytes each]) > > Directory STA1:[UUCP_DIST] > > DEVEL.BKP;1 16128 > MAPS.BKP;1 13167 > NEWSDEVEL.BKP;1 7623 > * RUN.BKP;1 8001 > SUPPDOC.BKP;1 3465 > SUPPNEWS.BKP;1 12096 > * UU20BOOT.BKP;1 1890 > > Total of 7 files, 62370 blocks. > > Files with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required. Additionally, > NEW sites (not yet running UUCP) will also need MAPS.BKP. > The "NEWS" files refer to Geoff Huston's ANU-NEWS, which is > also distributed with DECUS UUCP. > > Additionally, If you're really up to it, the ftp site > wuarchive.wustl.edu currently offers the latest VAX SIG decus > tape offerings via anonymous ftp. (the WHOLE tape, no parts!). Be > ready for a lot of transfer time and a lot of pieces, though. > > If you do use FTP on any of the above sites, PLEASE be kind. > DECUS UUCP is kind of big, so transfer it during non-peak hours. [Ed. note: for those of you without FTP AND without a direct UUNET connection AND you are unwilling to use UUNET's 900 number service, try FTPMAIL. For details, see the discussion of FTPMAIL, above.] > >3) Via "anonymous uucp". > [thanks to Jamie Hanrahan who arranged for this....] > > UUNET also has the package available for pickup via anonymous uucp. > (any DECUS UUCP site running at least V1.2 can make use of this!) > > DOCUMENTATION ON USING ANONYMOUS UUCP IS *IN* YOUR EXISTING (V1.2+) > DECUS UUCP DOCUMENTATION (USRGDxx.MEM). > > You can use uunet even if you are not a "subscriber" (they have > a 900 number! At the time of writing, connect charges via 900 > access is about $0.40 a minute) (be forwarned: uunet > charges rates based on connect time used.... based on a V.32 modem > (etc), the BASE kit would cost about $10-$12. The ENTIRE kit can > probably be retrieved for under $50.) Although long distance is > the "next best thing to being there", it isn't cheap.... > > (If all you have is a 2400-baud modem, don't even consider this.....) > > The directory to get the files from is ~/systems/vms/uucp and > the very first file to retrieve is "aaareadme.txt". That file > will then document for you everything else you have to do. (what > files to get, how to uncompress them, etc.). > > This method, therefore, is probably preferable for those sites who > aren't a long ways away from uunet, or who are already using it > as their main feed. > > The following is a reference to the file names and sizes. You > can be the judge as to what it would cost to transfer knowing > your system's capabilities, modem speed, and connection rate: > > > directory "/systems/vms/uucp": > total 14174 > * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 10198 Jul 20 19:52 aaareadme.txt > -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 4787679 Jul 10 05:01 devel.bkp-z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 2112011 Jul 10 05:17 newsdevel.bkp-z > * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 85666 Jul 17 00:15 preboot.vms_share > * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 2460500 Jul 10 05:24 run.bkp-z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 900149 Jul 10 05:27 suppdoc.bkp-z > -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 3591934 Jul 10 05:37 suppnews.bkp-z > * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 498411 Jul 17 00:22 uu20boot.bkp-z > > Files marked with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required. (note: > the files here are a bit different from the FTP or MAGTAPE distribution) [Ed. note: the command I used to fetch devel.bkp-z was: uucp -v "uunet!~/systems/vms/uucp/devel.bkp-z" uucp_public:devel.bkp-z and it worked just fine.] > >4) Lastly, the final method of getting a copy is via your local friendly > mailman. I provide free distribution of the DECUS UUCP package, > but only if you pay the freight. > > Package the following: > > 1 tape (TK50, TK70, or 9-track) ** TK85 coming soon...** > 1 self-addressed, STAMPED envelope to fit the tape **required** > > > Mail it all to: > > DECUS UUCP >c/o Kent Brodie > Faculty Physicians & Surgeons > 11200 West Plank Court, Suite 160 > Wauwatosa, WI 53226 > > > (If you send me a 9-track tape, I can handle 1600 or 6250bpi.) > If you use 6250, it will all fit on a 600-foot reel. If you need 1600, > then you must send a 2400-foot reel) > > U.S. Postage for mailing a TKxx cartridge is something like $2.90. > (thus, for both ways, the total cost is $5.80) > > A few notes. I provide this service free of charge, but at the > same time, The Medical College of Wisconsin didn't hire me to make > tape copies either. As I get tapes to make, I make them when I can. > Usual turnaround time is about a week. ("your mileage may vary"). > > Finally, when it comes to the self-addressed "stamped" > envelope, you can use normal US postal mail, Federal Express, or UPS. > Our office does not normally deal with any other couriers, so please > don't go using DHL or something. > > Questions? email me or gimme a call. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems Manager InterNet: brodie@fps.mcw.edu >Faculty Physicians & Surgeons uucpNet: fps.mcw.edu!brodie >Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 266 5080 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,ZOO >Subject: Where to get ZOO v2.10 for MS-DOS, Unix and VMS >From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen) > >It seems that no matter how often this information is posted, someone >will ask for it again in 2 or 3 days. PLEASE save this article! > >SIMTEL20: >========= >ZOO version 2.10 (needed for extracting files posted in Usenet >newsgroup comp.binaries.ibm.pc) is available via anonymous FTP from >WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (192.88.110.20) or mirror sites OAK.Oakland.Edu >(141.210.10.117), wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4), ftp.uu.net >(137.39.1.9), nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100), src.doc.ic.ac.uk >(146.169.3.7) or archie.au (139.130.4.6), by e-mail through the >BITNET/EARN file servers, or by uucp from UUNET's 1-900-GOT-SRCS. >See UUNET file uunet!~/info/archive-help for details. > >Garbo: >====== >If you do not know how to go about getting this material, users >are welcome to email ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) for the prerecorded >garbo.uwasa.fi instructions (long, circa 29Kb). North American users >are referred to the garbo mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu. Australian >users are referred to the archie.au mirror. The mirrors may lag >occasionally, or might not have all the files. If you do not receive >Timo's reply within five days, please ask your own site's system manager >to construct a returnable mail path for you. > >Directory PD1:<MSDOS.ZOO> > Filename Type Length Date Description >============================================== >ZOO210.EXE B 55721 910712 Dhesi's make/extract/view ZOO archives, 910712 > > 73461 Jul 12 1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/zoo210.exe > >Directory PD8:<MISC.UNIX> > Filename Type Length Date Description >============================================== >ZOO210.TAR-Z B 246115 910714 Dhesi's make/extract/view ZOO archives, C src > >237093 Aug 8 1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/arcers/zoo210.tar.Z > >Directory PD8:<MISC.VAXVMS> > Filename Type Length Date Description >============================================== >ZOO210.ARC B 289193 910801 Dhesi's make/extract/view ZOO archives, C src > >289193 Jul 5 1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/vms/arcers/zoo210.arc >647168 Jun 24 13:42 garbo.uwasa.fi:/vms/arcers/zoo210.tar > >Keith >-- >Keith Petersen >Maintainer of the MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives at SIMTEL20 [192.88.110.20] >Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu >Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND -- Dick Munroe Internet: munroe@dmc.com Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc. 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