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- From: ned@innosoft.com (Ned Freed)
- Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.pmdf
- Subject: RE: Problem with personal aliases
- Message-ID: <01GNZU4GLA5294E2EJ@INNOSOFT.COM>
- Date: 25 Aug 92 18:28:13 GMT
- Organization: The Internet
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- First of all, you cannot test personal aliases with PMDF TEST/REWRITE. It
- does not contain any logic for testing them and will not produce
- results that even vaguely resemble what you should get from personal
- aliases. This restriction is a permanent one and will not be lifted in
- the future -- the handling of the expansion of personal aliases is totally
- ideosyncratic to the user agent doing the expansion. VMS MAIL, PMDF SEND,
- Multinet MM, and our unreleased PMDF user agent all handle personal aliases
- and all do it differently. The only aspect of personal aliases you can
- test with PMDF TEST/REWRITE is whether or not they expand into the
- proper list of envelope addresses.
-
- Second, the message you received on HELIX was munged by a broken sendmail
- configuration. One of sendmail's many problems is that it cannot handle
- group address syntax. (More accurately, the configurations that ship
- with 99.999% of the sendmails of the world don't handle group addresses
- properly.) In practice this is a non-issue since you cannot use an
- empty group address for anything anyway. But the address you should
- have seen was something like this:
-
- To: HELIX: ;
-
- The @host stuff is garbage that sendmail slapped on there. Ironically, there
- are also some sendmails out there that will strip this garbage back off. What
- a pile.
-
- Finally, I don't know what you expected to get, but this is the expected
- result when you use a persnoal alias that is marked private and noexpand.
- If you want the alias to expand into the real address just mark it expand
- and it will. If you want it to expand into an alias other people can use
- mark it public.
-
- Ned
-