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- From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
- Subject: Cosgrove Fantasyland (Was: Unnecessary hostility in talk.rape)
- In-Reply-To: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu's message of 25 Aug 92 23:00:49 EST
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- <1992Aug25.230049.9693@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:14:59 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug25.230049.9693@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
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- <Ataylor--said I was clling rape victims stupid. After repeatedly getting tired
- <of that charge, I challenged that person to point out where it happened. After
- <lots of false made up quottes by that person, things turned sour.<
-
- Like this one?
-
- Shall I repost the entire article, Cosgrove?
-
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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: Critisizing the victim?
- Date: 5 Aug 92 11:52:54 EST
- Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services
-
- [text deleted to save space, but I have the original post]
-
- If the man walking down the street with the bulging cash was stupid,
- the woman in the bad situation she should know to avoid is also
- stupid. Yes or no, your opinion?
-
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-
- Pretty clear; a woman who is raped "in a bad situation she should
- know to avoid is also stupid".
-
- Well, Cosgrove?
-
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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: Critisizing the victim?
- Date: 5 Aug 92 12:17:56 EST
- Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services
-
- In article <1992Aug5.021755.10127@news.cs.indiana.edu>, Amy Young Leith <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
- > In article <1992Jul28.074010.8993@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
-
- [text deleted to save space, I have the original posting.]
-
- His comments were not politically correct because they were not entirely
- sypathetic to the rape victim, and dared to depict that maybe some of them were
- stupid in what they did and, while not wanting to be raped, sure invited it.
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- "some of them were stupid...and...invited it [rape]".
-
- Cosgrove has posted that women invite rape, yes or no?
-
-
- There's nothing made up, it's all from
- Darrell M. Crosgrove.
-
-
- <In each of these situations, I did NOT initiate combat. I was posting
- <my opinions when someone else came along and started to dig into me.
-
- Since your opinion was and, so far as I can tell, still
- *is* that survivors of rape are "stupid"......
-
- <And, I am not
- < yet a lawyer, but I am in training to be one, true.
-
- Odd, didn't Cosgrove just claim to be an attorney
- in a previous post?
-
- <However, should I be gentle
- <when someone comes along and tries to show how hot they are?
-
- <To make an analogy--you shouldn't go into a bar and pick a fight with someone.
- <They might be golden gloves and can hurt you real bad real quick.
-
- Cosgrove is fond of analogizing net.argument as combat.
-
- I've asked Cosgrove before if he calls people who disagree
- with him "idiots" to their face, or only over the net.
-
- He ducked that question.
-
- I've asked Cosgrove if he is as combattive in real life
- as he is on the net.
-
- He ducked that question, too.
-
- Do "tough guys" always duck questions?
-
-
- < In the most recent skirmish, I posted the following:<
-
- < ________________________
- < From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu, University of Toledo, Computer Services
- < Date: 21 Aug 92 08:53:29 EST
-
- < Regarding the debate over mace v. home brews, why not just get a
- < 49 cent trial sie of WD-40 or similar product and carry that?
-
- < It's the same size as a mace canister, and is more effective.
-
-
- And I asked Cosgrove to support this assertion.
-
- I wonder if he ever will, or whether he'll just
- keep on ducking?
-
- Oh, and someone should notify Smith and Wesson that
- Cosgrove is referring to their trademarked product,
- Mace(tm) as "mace".
-
-