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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: "only 3 doctors ... perform third trimester abortions"
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.035233.6281@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1992Sep03.224620.5006@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:52:33 GMT
- Lines: 54
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- In article <1992Sep03.224620.5006@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
- >In <1992Sep3.150018.4464@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >> In article <1992Aug30.035846.40919@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes
- >> >In <1992Aug29.180604.13845@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- >> >>
- >> >> [re: "three doctors" claim]
- >> >>
- >> >> ...It doesn't appear that Mr. Margolis is
- >> >> willing to track down the source.
- >> >
- >> >That's right - I'm not. As far as I know, it's true. If you can
- >> >list more doctors that perform third tri abortions, or you can
- >> >document for me cases of women getting third-trimester abortions
- >> >for "frivolous" reasons, I would of course change my tune. Unlike
- >> >some, I don't knowingly pass on lies.
- >>
- >> Larry, passing off something as fact without lifting a finger to check whether
- >> it's true or not demonstrates a reckless disregard for truth, and is in fact
- >> "lying".
- >
- >Kevin, the part that you deleted and replaced with an ellipsis was:
- >> >> The transcript does not mention the source of Stahl's claim
- >> >> about the "three doctors". I may write to 60 Minutes to ask
- >> >> them for a source.
- >
- >Doug has numerous sources that he can check.
-
- Yes, Larry, and the part YOU deleted (without even indicating any kind of
- ellipsis, I'll note) was:
-
- >>If I were you, I'd retract
- >>your claim pending positive proof or disproof one way or another.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- See, Larry, I'm not suggesting you abandon the claim PERMANENTLY; only until
- such time as the facts can be determined.
-
- >I have seen multiple
- >independent reports of this, so I'm satisfied that it's true.
-
- I only remember you citing the 60 Minutes source. Multiple independent
- sources are _more_ credible, of course, but they still don't "prove the
- negative"...
-
- >No
- >matter how many sources are provided, it seems that Doug will not
- >be satisfied with them. So why should I bother?
-
- By the same logic ("why bother?"), should you be making such claims in the
- first place? It is my opinion that if a claim is made, and challenged in
- good faith, then the only two acceptable choices are to support it, or to
- retract it. You seem to find a third alternative in there somewhere.
-
- - Kevin
-