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- From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
- Subject: Re: WILL THE REAL MISOGYNISTS PLEASE STAND UP? Case 1.
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- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:31:15 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep3.002843.17095@pony.Ingres.COM> dan@Ingres.COM (Daniel J. Dick) writes:
- #sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- ## In article <1992Sep2.183409.25366@pony.Ingres.COM> dan@Ingres.COM (Daniel J. Dick) writes:
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- ## #I missed out on what Mr. Nyikos said, but from this message alone, I cannot
- ## ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- ## #come to the same conclusion that Mr. Nyikos is either a liar or a misogynist.
- ##
- ## [text deleted]
- ##
- ## #Mr. Nyiko's point was not that women such as the Florida physician's wife
- ## #should be forced into abortion. His arguement, whether a good one or not,
- ##
- ## [more text deleted]
- ##
- ## How is it that you know what Nyikos's point was, given that you
- ## didn't read his article?
- ##
- ## You'll have to drop in more often, Dick. You're amusing.
- ##
- ## Susan
- #
- #Well, Susan, perhaps I did misunderstand Mr. Nyiko's point of view and
- #perhaps your folks did not lie or misrepresent or misunderstand his point
- #of view conveniently. Why don't we settle this and ask Mr. Nyiko himself.
-
- I don't need to - I read Nyikos' article when it appeared. You should,
- too. You'd look like much less of an idiot if you refrained from
- commenting until you had done so.
-
- (And I'll ask as well - who are my "folks"?)
-
- #If you cannot do this, then who really cares what amuses you? Let's get
- #on with representing the other side correctly and get away from the stupid,
- #childish mockery that so thoroughly permeates the flame wars we so often see
- #on the net. People have points of view that should be represented right, or
- #else we are not dealing with the issues at hand.
-
- Do you get extra points each time you use a permutation of "mock"?
-
- People generally can express themselves quite well. I can't imagine
- why you think that you need to do it for them.
-
- #The reason I was able to comment without having seen the original text from
- #Mr. Nyiko was for the obvious--very clearly obvious--reason that the followup
- #held all the characteristics of a convenient and intentional misrepresentation--
- #namely the attribution of ideas that nobody could hold to an opposing side.
- #No reasonable person could possibly hold that women are to be abused by forced
- #abortion and be on the pro-life side, now, could they? Be real. It's not a
- #difficult conclusion to come to is it? Then why was it presented in this way?
-
- The nice thing about the net is that, if someone (like Doug Holtsinger,
- for example) misrepresents what someone else said, it's quite
- easy to look at the original article.
-
- By the way, you seem to have completely missed Nyikos' point,
- despite your illusions about knowing everything.
-
- #Frankly, you're not amusing at all,
-
- Thank you. I'd recently posted that I was going to you
- use "amusing" as a euphemism for "liar."
-
- #and I find your disrespect sickening. I'm
- #not in the least convinced to follow your views or give them careful
- #consideration based on the mockery you give. I much prefer reading an opposing
- #view that correctly addresses the opponent with respect, without mockery.
-
-
- I'll continue to show disrespect for amusing people like you,
- Nyikos and Holtsinger. I can't imagine why you think that
- I value your opinion.
-
- Susan
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