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- From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
- Subject: Re: All discrimination is not equal -- or wrong
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- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:58:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep1.004203.22844@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >In article <AWERLING.92Aug31165912@dante.nmsu.edu>
- >awerling@nmsu.edu (WERLING) writes:
- >
- >>dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >
- >>> Once people condone Patrick Humphrey's use of the term "fat black
-
- Only one or two persons have condoned it. I think the majority of
- both sides here agree the phrase was uncalled for.
-
- >My point is that once we start rationalizing these kinds of insults,
- >any African-American can be a target for racist insults as long as
- >the attacker's reasons are "good enough".
-
- Or any caucasian can be targeted as a member of the KKK as long
- as the attacker's reasons are good enough? Is that what you mean?
- I agree -- this would be bad.
-
- >Here on talk.abortion, it
- >seems that some people have fallen over each other to defend Humphrey's
- >use of the term "fat black ass".
-
- I think two people at most have tried to defend the remark
- itself. Saying that Chaney brings out the worst in people is not
- the same as defending the remark made. I myself stated that the
- remark was repugnant. Why? "Black" by itself is not offensive, but
- when stuck in between a derogatory "fat" and a derogatory "ass",
- the word is clearly being used in a derogatory fashion.
-
- Much the same way Chaney has used the words "church", "minister"
- and "gospel" in a derogatory way to describe some of my actions.
- Since religious affiliation had never entered into my arguments,
- his use of these terms obviously carry an ulterior, derogotory
- meaning.
-
- >And Humphrey has made it clear that
- >he won't even apologize to Mr. Chaney. I think that stinks.
-
- I'd drop the "even" from the sentence above, as it tends to obscure the
- fact that Patrick has apologized to everyone else on t.a.. Patrick knows
- the phrase was out-of-line. Why he won't apologize to Chaney, I do not
- know. That is between him and Chaney.
-
- Doug, you say that *nothing* justifys such racial slander. If this is the
- case, then Chaney's racial slur of associating Patrick with the KKK is
- also unjustified. (See how that works -- NOTHING can justify it.)
- I think both of them should stop such racial slurs. I note that Patrick has
- committed his slur once, quickly repented to the public at large and stopped.
- Chaney, on the other hand, has committed his slur over and over. I do not see
- you claiming that calling a person a member of the KKK stinks.
- Well, it does.
-
-
- >Here's the post which started it all:
- >
- [post deleted]
- >
-
- One comment about the dialogue in the deleted post -- up until the
- regrettable remark, it was a dialogue between Patrick and
- Chaney *only*. My name is in there due to Chaney's silliness,
- and not through any action of mine.
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