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- From: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTIONS
- Message-ID: <1992Sep3.133151.13091@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- Date: 3 Sep 92 13:31:51 GMT
- References: <1992Sep2.192131.6025@acd4.acd.com>
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- Organization: AT&T
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- In article <1992Sep2.192131.6025@acd4.acd.com> wdo@TEFS1.acd.com (Bill Overpeck) writes:
- > IN <1992Sep1.121531.24114@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com
- > (dean.kaflowitz) writes >
- > In article <1992Sep1.022621.15823@crd.ge.com>
- > james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com> writes: >>
- > addressing the chaneyhall thing,
- > decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes: >>>
- >
- > >>> And he says his home life was not dysfunctional, yet
- > >>> look at what it produced.
- > >>>
- > >>> He's one sick little boy. His mommy and daddy
- > >>> better get him some serious psychiatric treatment
- > >>> before his visions of his inheritance get the better
- > >>> of what passes for his patience. I won't be
- > >>> surprised if I see him on A Current Affair somewhere
- > >>> down the road.
- >
- > >> hmmmm. bill overpeck told me earlier today that it was
- > >> prejudicial to suggest that someone seek psychiatric
- > >> help when i suggested that DODie do so.
- >
- > Not what I said...
- >
- > >> i wonder if he'll think the same here.
- >
- > > Yeah, well I wasn't sure what Bill was driving at with that
- > > one.
- >
- > When I was a kid it was acceptable to derogate others by
- > calling them "retardo" or some such. Seems like casting
- > someone as emotionally disordered is really no different.
- > Each is an affront to the dignity of those who actually
- > suffer from an intellectual, affective or thought disorder.
-
- Okay, I see your point. I'm not sure why telling someone who
- is genuinely emotionally disordered that he or she is genuinely
- emotionally disordered is an affront to their dignity. I do
- see how you might, if I read you right, be saying that genuine
- concern is not expressed in the manner I chose to express it,
- and that if I really thought Dennis needed help, there are
- much better ways to suggest it.
-
- You're right if that's what you mean. But I am not, as
- you probably realize, very concerned for Challaney's well-
- being. I just think he's a sick boy and should get
- professional help. And said it.
-
- As for saying it being an affront to his dignity, I'm not
- all that worried about his dignity either.
-
- > > But I'm not prepared to change my opinions because
- > > Bill doesn't approve. I like and respect Bill's opinions.
- > > Old Rngduus and I may not agree about abortion, but I don't
- > > find him difficult to take. And I do think Chahallney has,
- > > if nothing else, an identity crisis of mythological
- > > proportions. The Two Gentlemen From Verona had nothing
- > > on that boy.
- >
- > I'm not sure what you mean by identity crisis, unless you're
- > referring to his posting from two different accounts?
-
- That and his pretending to be a borg and an airplane and
- how his fantasy seems to be very real to him. I'd say,
- and remember that I am not a trained mental health professional,
- that it indicates a strong lack of self-esteem. He keeps
- adopting the personas of fictional and even inanimate
- objects rather than remaining in the role of himself. And
- his identification with these objects appears, to be
- very strong as he plays his roles very frequently and keeps
- inventing new aspects to these fictional roles. Strikes
- me as he needs some therapy. If that's an affront to his
- dignity, so be it. I'm quite prepared to affront his
- dignity.
- >
- > > And Bill, if you're listening, how's Irene?
- >
- > She's leaning toward the pro-life position.
- >
- > > Goodnight Irene
- > > Goodnight Irene goodnight
- > > Goodnight Irene goodnight Irene
- > > I'll see you in my dreams
- >
- > But then a crooner like you might cause her to stumble...
- >
- > Stop it.
-
- Okay, okay. I'll cut it out. From now on I'll just call
- you Bill. Plain old Bill. Just Bill. And no more about
- Irene, since your wife is probably starting to wonder who
- Irene is.
-
- Take it easy
- plain old just Bill.
-
- Deeeee34eeeeeen
-
- That's when I used to love her
- But it's all over now
-