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- From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.discrimination
- Subject: Re: Doug Holsinger: Anti-Semite?
- Keywords: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
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- Date: 1 Sep 92 14:31:38 GMT
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- In article <lefty-310892165951@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
- #I've seen the following quote in Doug Holtsinger's signature in several
- #messages, and I've grown more offended by it each time I've seen it.
- #
- #In article <1992Aug30.232948.17241@ncsu.edu>, dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug
- #Holtsinger) wrote:
- ##
- ## "My logic is based on ... a religious perspective which says
- ## that personhood begins at birth (actually a month after birth if
- ## we want to be precise)..."
- ## -- Gloria Feldt,
- ## chief executive, Planned Parenthood of Central and Northern Arizona
- ##
- ## "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this statement."
- ## -- garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) <BtnDAw.Iwo.2@cs.cmu.edu>
- #
- #Gloria Feldt is accurately summarizing, as I understand it, the Talmudic
- #point of view regarding personhood. I see no evidence that, unlike you,
- #Ms. Feldt is attempting to impose her point of view on anyone else. Do
- #you have a specific problem with this, Mr. Holtsinger? Do you object to
- #the beliefs or practices of the Jewish religion? What point are you
- #attempting to make with this?
- #
- #Oh, and for the record, I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this
- #statement, either.
-
-
- Also for the record, I said, "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible
- about this statement. What is it about Judaism that bothers you so?"
- Holtsinger responded with, "That will make a lovely quote." Holtsinger
- has been quite self-righteous about other forms of bigotry, but seems
- to think that anti-Semitism is an acceptable form.
-
- Susan
-