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- From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
- Subject: Re: control
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- Message-ID: <1992Sep01.054733.16088@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 05:47:33 GMT
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- In <nyikos.715296199@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- > In <1992Aug29.144832.19929@rigel.econ.uga.edu> mills@uga.edu (Kathi Mills) write
- >
- > >Mills
- > >>Nyikos
- > >>> Rick Kelly
- > >>>> Suxie
- >
- > >>>>Nobody is trying to take away anybody's control of their own bodies.
- > >>>>We're simply making it plain that it is appropriate to apply that control
- > >>>>at the correct time, BEFORE there is a child whose own body is also involved
- >
- > >>>So the only sexual intercourse that you've ever had was for the specific
- > >>>purpose of concieving a child. And once you had reached your objective
- > >>>you stopped.
- >
- > >>A truly tasteless joke. But it has possibilities: properly reworded,
- > >>it makes a perfect illustrative example of the term "non sequitur".
- >
- > >Hardly, twit. What Rick is asking is: since you feel that the woman should
- > >be ennslaved to her body for the sin of failinng to "control" herself
- > >"at the correct time," do you advocate the same "control" for men, and,
- > >more specifically, for YOURSELF?
- >
- > >In other words, have you ALWAYS engaged in sex for the SOLE purpose of
- > >procreation, or are you a flaming, raving hypocrite?
- >
- > This makes a perfect illustrative example of the fallacy of "tertium
- > non datur" -- "there is no third way."
- >
- > One of the third ways: use natural family planning, and in the highly
- > unlikely event of pregnancy, embrace the child or give it up for adoption.
-
- How is that a third way? You seem to be restating the original premise
- which is being questioned - only have sex if you're willing to give birth.
- (Except, of course, that by specifying NFP you can have sex less often and
- are more likely to have an unwanted conception than if you used the Pill.)
-
- > Also, have you forgotten that en route to the nth of n children
- > there is plenty of opportunity for sex for non-procreative ends?
-
- What if n is 0? Or, more generally, what happens after you reach n
- (where n does not approach infinity)?
-
- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
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