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- From: chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman)
- Subject: Re: Thank you, sincerely (was Re: Only God Can Help Us!
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- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:39:10 GMT
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- katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago) writes:
-
- >> Thank you, Steve and Cameron, for bringing back the realization that
- >> there *are* Christians, evangelicals even, who are fair and reasonable.
- >> That not all Christians are hateful and intolerant. That not all
- >> Christians are hell-fire bent on forcing their will and beliefs on
- >> every single human being in the world ...
-
- [ellipse mine; Doug almost never uses them!]
- Then, here comes dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger):
-
- > I think these statements denigrate Christians. You say that "not all
- > Christians are hateful and intolerant". I think that statement tends
- > to promote a bigoted stereotype that Christians are "hateful and
- > intolerant". If you said "not all homosexuals are promiscuous" or
- > "not all Jews are money-grubbers" then I think people would be outraged
- > by your remarks. I find your remarks very offensive.
-
- Let's restore the _complete_ quotation, shall we?
-
- >> ... (well, I know that it would be
- >> considered *nice* if everybody were a Christian, but then, I'd like
- >> everybody in the world to be Kate Bush and Happy Rhodes fans :-))
-
- It sounds a little more good-natured now, doesn't it? Can't you leave
- statements alone, Doug?
-
- >> I have been *very* angry at Christians lately, since I've become
- >> aware and concerned about the terrorists harassing health care workers,
- >> and *especially* since the Republican convention. I've been bashing
- >> Christians at every opportunity, and your posts have brought me back
- >> to the realization that I have been unfair.
-
- And of course, Doug, this changes the entire meaning of the quotation you
- included in your article, doesn't it?
-
- >> My brother is a born-again Christian. He's somewhat lapsed, but still
- >> holds the basic beliefs. He's a truck driver, so i don't talk to him
- >> very often. That's been good, because if he'd been around within the
- >> past few weeks, I'm sure I would have dumped all my anger on him.
-
- >> Whenever I feel the urge to lash out at all Christians, I will think
- >> "Steve" and "Cameron" and re-think what I'm thinking, writing, saying.
-
- >> Thank you.
-
- And thus, Vickie gracefully closes her encomium of two intelligent
- participants in t.a who happen to be Christian.
-
- So, um, Doug, who appointed you as Defender of the Faith, hmmmm?
- --
- Chris Lyman / email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov / #include <std.disclaimers.h>
- "No I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
- they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George Bush
-