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- From: smccabe@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Sarah A McCabe)
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- Subject: Re: There's every reason to vote for Bush
- Message-ID: <1992Aug28.185330.24027@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Date: 28 Aug 92 18:53:30 GMT
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- In article <nyikos.714667647@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >
- >Last month I asked networkers to imagine the following scenario, now
- >updated by saying "plasma" instead of "blood", and with some
- >new details added:
- >
- >A VERY close relative,
- >as close as mother to offspring, has a very rare bodily constitution
- >which for some reason makes it impossible for anyone in the world except
- >you to donate even plasma. Said relative also has a strange condition
- >which makes periodic plasma donations necessary for 9 months, otherwise
- >death is inevitable; but if donations are made, then after 9 months this
- >relative will recover and never again need these donations from you.
- >
- >Now, even though the donation of plasma involves the use, if you want
- >to put it that way, of tissues, organs, etc. I think you should be
- >morally obligated to make these donations.
- >
- >I do not advocate that you
- >be punished if you refuse [as indeed, no woman has ever been legally
- >punished for procuring an abortion done on her], but I do think that
- >anyone who smashes the special plasma-donating equipment [which for
- >some reason is irreplaceable] should be prosecuted, even if you ask
- >him to do it, and I think you should thank the judge for being merciful
- >enough not to prosecute you despite your having actually *paid* the
- >creep who destroyed the equipment.
-
- So, let me see if I can summarize this scenario:
- 1. I own this plasma machine.
- 2. I can use it, at some personal expense, to save someone's life.
- 3. There is no punishment for not using it.
- 4. But if I pay someone to render it unuseable, that person is subject to
- prosecution (what crime?).
-
- In order to make this analogy closer to pregnancy, you would have to
- introduce the condition that the only way I can avoid using this
- machine is to destroy it (or at least render it temporarily unuseable).
- In your analogy, the decision not to use the machine is a completely
- separate event from destroying it. Those two events are not separable
- in pregnancy and that is an important distiction. But to continue with
- your analogy as you wrote it:
-
- Do you honestly consider this a just legal system? I assume that under
- your system if I destroy the machine myself I would be subject to the
- same penalties as any other person who destroyed it. You seem to be saying
- that if you have a physical possession which can save someone's life, you
- are not only morally required to use it to do so, but should be subject
- to legal sanctions if you destroy that physical possession so that
- no one can use it. Is that an accurate summary? If so, I sure hope
- you have never thrown away any leftover food that could have been used
- to feed a starving person. I sure hope you don't drink or smoke or in
- any other way damage your internal organs which can be used as
- transplants after you are dead. Under your legal system, you could
- could be facing some pretty hefty penalties. Is this really the
- sort of system you which to impose on all of us, or is it just
- fertile women who should be held to these standards?
-
- Sarah McCabe
-