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- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTIONS
- Message-ID: <1992Aug27.115958.2175@brandonu.ca>
- From: mcbeanb@brandonu.ca
- Date: 27 Aug 92 11:59:58 CST
- References: <1992Aug22.115838.2156@brandonu.ca> <1992Aug27.001621.12915@noao.edu>
- Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
- Lines: 63
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- In article <1992Aug27.001621.12915@noao.edu>, forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- > From article <1992Aug22.115838.2156@brandonu.ca>, by mcbeanb@brandonu.ca:
- >> In article <1992Aug21.192541.10624@noao.edu>, forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- >>> From article <23919@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, by bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense):
- >>>> In talk.abortion, forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- >>
- >>> Obviously Ron, you've just refuted yourself, since if the baby is going
- >>> to die anyway due to some defect, there is no reason whatsoever to put it
- >>> to death!
- >>
- >> What about the child which is produced?
- >
- > What about the child that IS?
-
- Would you have felt better if I had typed "the child which is created"?
- Same difference.
-
- >> Even if s/he dies shortly thereafter
- >> it will suffer. The family will have to endure his/her ensuing death.
- >> Someone has to pay the extra bills. It isn't fun. My second cousin
- >> Kirk was born with a terrible defect which was supposed to allow him
- >> less than a year to live. He is constantly in excruciating pain, is
- >> always drowned in pain killers, more than enough to kill a child, but I
- >> believe he has produced some sort of resistance. My cousin and her family
- >> still visit him, even though he can be nothing more than a vegetable,
- >> and if he's anything more than that then his hell is all that much worse.
- >> He requires the attention and time of hospital staff to keep comfortable.
- >> He just sits and drools. I doubt he could think with the mix of pain
- >> and drugs.
- >>
- >> Kirk is three years old now. He still hasn't died. Had his parents
- >> known of this defect beforehand, I am positive they would rather have
- >> aborted him than to put everyone, especially Kirk, through this certain
- >> hell.
- >
- >
- > I'll bet you anything that the nurses (not to mention his parents) love him
- > on a daily basis, and he knows it. For you to second guess the "quality"
- > of his life is nothing less than Gestapo tactics.
-
- Suzanne. Imagine a baby who is born into a world of constant excruciating
- pain, only to be interrupted by mind-numbing doses of powerful pain killers.
- Do you really think that baby is capable of *any* thought whatsoever?
- Capable of knowing *any* feeling but that of pain??
-
- > For you to suggest that
- > your cousin would have reverted to killing her own baby is the biggest insult
- > you could have possibly slung at her.
-
- In your opinion. Did you stop to think that her opinion may differ?
-
- > Beware lest somebody come along and second guess the "quality" of _your_
- > lifestyle, Brian, and hence whether _your_ life is "worth living".
-
- I'll take this as a sign that you don't approve of euthanasia in general.
- I'm sure that either my fiancee (hopefully my wife by the time I'm
- in the vegetative state) or my son could decide whether or not to
- "pull my plug". If they were both gone, then I'd leave my life to
- chance.
-
- > Suzanne Forgach
-
- Brian McBean - McBeanB@BrandonU.Ca
-