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- From: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
- Message-ID: <1992Aug27.115634.8997@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 11:56:34 GMT
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- In article <t2bn0+f.ray@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- > nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes ...
- > > regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- > >>Not in a vacuum, no, it doesn't. In the *real* *world*, however, where a
- > >>puritanical society has dodged simple information to young teens, and
- > >>where prejudice and misinformation about 'the opposite sex' abounds, I
- > >>think it does.
- > >
- > >This is vintage Planned Parenthood propaganda, designed to garner public
- > >support for school-based sex clinics which haven't made a dime's bit
- > >of difference in pregnancy rates.
- >
- > Then how do you explain the fact the in countries that educate kids about
- > sex and that have freely available birth control also have the lowest rates
- > of abortions and teen pregnancies?
- >
- > And that countries with oppressive attitudes towards sex have higher rates
- > of abortion? As an example, Mexico, a strongly Catholic country with about
- > a fourth the population of the US has 1.3 times as many abortions per year.
- > Compare with similar stats for Sweden some time.
-
- It's an interesting question, but I have always believed that such
- comparisons were incomplete and that the question of sex education
- tends to be considered too much ina vacuum. I think the
- differences in rates of teen pregnancy and abortion have much
- more to do with generalized cultural differences and attitudes
- towards sex than just sex education. I don't care for this
- process of simplification in which sex education alone is
- either praised or condemned based on teen pregnancy and abortion
- rates that differ between countries. I rather think that
- ingrained cultural attitudes towards sex and birth control,
- and to some large degree towards women and equality, have more
- to do with it.
-
- That said, I find myself thinking that the matter of sex education
- has far less to do with teen pregnancy and abortion than these
- other factors, and ought to be considered by itself, apart
- from them. And when I do consider it apart from them, I think
- that sex education is a vital and necessary part of a person's
- overall education. I never do calculus, and haven't since I
- was in high school, and yet I had a fair education in the stuff.
- Yet I have had a reasonable amount of sex during the course of
- my life and received no instruction in the matter from the schools
- nor, to be quite honest, from my parents. I read books about
- it (and I don't mean trashy novels) and sort of, er, felt my
- way along the subject, so to speak. I sincerely doubt that it
- would have done me any harm to receive a more clinical set of
- facts on the matter, sans judgement or moralizing. My parents
- did, through their example and their attitudes, foster a strong
- notion of right and wrong in me which I apply to most things.
- That includes my sexual behavior.
-
- If Dan Quayle really believes we ought to have the best educated
- American people in the world, he ought to be praising sex education,
- since it is certainly an area where there is persistent ignorance
- among young people, and sex is going to have a much larger impact
- on the lives of all of us in general than knowing the year of the
- Gadsden Purchase. And unfortunately, many parents are as
- reluctant to approach the subject with their children as mine
- were. I know for a fact that most of my friends' parents never
- discussed the matter with them.
-
- If Peter thinks that this is "Planned Parenthood propaganda"
- then I can only consider him very unrealistic and something
- of an ostrich.
-
- Dean Kaflowitz
-