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- From: regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
- Date: 26 Aug 1992 17:33:21 -0700
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- In article <1992Aug26.203428.27053@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
- >In <17glukINN3jn@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com writes:
- >> In article <nyikos.714846005@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >> >>>Jimmy Miller writes:
- >> I don't know what you two are wondering about. It should be abundantly clear
- >> to both of you that I think your insistance at 'informing' women 'adequately'
- >> is bogus -- merely a ploy to force upon women *your* biases.
- >
- > I rather thought we'd already settled this in e-mail. If you can't handle my
- >having an opinion and being willing to express it (in appropriate forums),tough
- >shit. I do not speak for Peter, but my "ploy" is no ploy. It's very simple.
- >No "propaganda", no moralizing, nothing left out or glossed over. All the
- >risks, all the costs, and all the avenues.
-
- Jimmy, we *have* already been through this in e-mail. "Should" means a couple
- things. It can mean in-a-perfect-world-w-y-z, or it can mean something-must-
- be-done. You say you mean 'in-a-perfect-world-x-y-z', which is fine. I've
- told you that on this net, *I* am speaking to those who figure should trans-
- lates to something-must-be-done.
-
- Guess what, Jim. That means by your own definition, you are out of here. It
- may well mean, by someone *else's* definition, you count. Since your defini-
- tion only applies to *you*, I'm surprised to see you still harping on it.
-
- YOU say it isn't a 'ploy'. Bully. I say it is. Bully. I will be thrilled
- to be wrong.
-
- > Oh that's clear enough. I never wondered that you had a "it's okay to only
- >look for what you want to hear" attitude. I was just amazed at how you could
- >be so smugly proud of it.
-
- Why? I mean, aside from the fact that you have no notion of whether or not
- I'm smug or proud, why would smugness or pride make any difference whatsoever?
-
- >You just hate it that I cannot be tarred with the "pro-force" brush you
- >can use on so many others. You just hate it that I...
- >You just hate it that I ....
-
- I don't think you have any real way of knowing what I hate, either.
-
- The mistake you are making above, Jim, is figuring that my participation on
- this net has much of anything to do with you personally. It doesn't. I
- don't know who you are, I don't have any dealings with you personally, and
- I don't have an opinion about you personnally. I'm talking in a public
- forum about a public issue.
-
- Don't take it all so *personally* Jim. You might be happier, and you'd
- definitely get a better understanding of the dynamics on this net.
-
- Adrienne Regard
-
-