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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: A mirror for Adrienne Regard's NO OTHER HUMAN...
- Message-ID: <nyikos.714855951@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- Keywords: puberty, surrealistic
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- References: <nyikos.713885513@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1992Aug20.174421.13904@advtech.uswest.com> <nyikos.714423816@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1992Aug23.201147.20315@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <nyikos.714615572@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1992Aug24.201913.15607@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
- Date: 26 Aug 92 19:05:51 GMT
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- In <1992Aug24.201913.15607@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes:
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- >In <nyikos.714615572@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
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- >>In <1992Aug23.201147.20315@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes:
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- >>> "The Handmaid's Tale" no more perpetuates misogyny than "1984"
- >>>perpetuates totalitarianism.
-
- It does if it makes people choose to blind themselves to the evils
- perpetrated on women by abortionists today.
-
- > It is the most powerful book I have ever read, and fast becoming
- >canonical ( I know of at least four university instructors who teach it
- >right here).
-
- For credit? Ask them this: can they give a single example of a woman
- who was prosecuted for having an abortion done on her, in the whole
- history of America OR England OR Australia OR Canada?
-
- Then ask them, how many rape cases, other than marital rape, were ignored
- by law enforcement authorities on the grounds that rape is not a crime?
- (I mean, besides in the days before the 13th amendment, when rape of slaves
- may not have been a crime.)
-
-
- >>>>> raped,
-
- >>>>I have already gone on record in talk.abortion as not wishing to
- >>>>impose a law prohibiting
- >>>>abortion prior to the 6th week [not month, but it still allows plenty of
- >>>>time after a skipped period] after fertilization. The only reason I might
- >>>>possibly reconsider this is if the consequences for the WOMAN are
- >>>>unacceptable.
-
- >>> Does this make you pro-choice?
-
- >>So long as the self-designated "pro-choice" groups do not break their
- >>solidarity with abortionists who have demonstrated a callous indifference
- >>toward the health and welfare of their patients, as in my COERCED ABORTION
- >>post of last month, I reject the label with loathing.
-
- > So long as the self-designated "Pro-life" groups do not break their
- >solidarity with the terrorists I saw a couple of weeks ago persecuting
- >the two young children of a local doctor, I reject your philosophy with
- >loathing.
-
- The two situations are not the same. Before you pass judgment on my
- philosophy you have to tell me what exactly this persecution consisted of,
- and then if I do not break solidarity with these people you call
- terrorists, then your conclusion will be valid. [I'm not sure, though,
- where the pro-life groups come into this. I'm pretty sure you already
- reject with loathing the "pro-life" label being pinned on you.]
-
-
- >>See a comment above. I don't waste my time on hack writing, and this
- >>comment of yours reinforces my suspicions that the book is just that.
- >>I was being partly ironic in my "trust" comment.
-
- > Oh, so now you've judged the book without even reading it! How
- >intelligent and open-minded!
-
- A suspicion is not a judgment. Was there ever a pro-life book you did
- not suspect of being bullshit? {Append a wry smiley here.}
-
- > Huxley's LInda would have had an abortion had she not fallen down a
- >ravine, become concussed and been accidentally abandoned in Malpais
- >before she knew of her pregnancy. She lyrically extols the abortion
- >center to Lenina.
-
- Did she regret the fact that John had been born?
-
- > Perhaps you would like to quiz me?
-
- Thanks, it saves me a trip to the library and lots of leafing through the
- book. One thing I still can't figure out is, why didn't Linda leave
- the reservation until her son John was grown up? Couldn't she get any
- one of the many groups of tourists to take her away from that awful
- reservation, until Lenina's came along?
-
- > In terms of closeness, check out the final chapter of Susan
- >Faludi's _Backlash_. Perhaps you will notice some examples of real-life
- >American fetal Idolatry, including one very distressing one in which the
- >woman dies partly from the result of intrusive Cesarian surgery to save
- >a stillborn 5 1/2 month fetus expressly against her own wishes.
-
- I'll check whether our library has it. If not, do you mind some more
- quizzing?
-
-