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- Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
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- Date: Tuesday, 25 Aug 1992 22:44:07 EST
- From: Linda Birmingham <ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
- Message-ID: <92238.224407ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: WHO OWNS WHO?...or is it whom?...or what?
- References: <1992Aug9.005924.1301@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
- <nyikos.713891006@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <23872@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- <1992Aug21.121610.2140@brandonu.ca>
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- In article <1992Aug21.121610.2140@brandonu.ca>, mcbeanb@brandonu.ca says:
- >
- >In article <23872@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Ron Bense writes:
- >> In talk.abortion, nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >>>In <92225.110850ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> Linda Birmingham writes:
-
- >>>>Every pregnancy will cause some physical damage.
- >>
- >>>So does every vaccination. The question is, do the benefits
- >>>outweigh the damages?
-
- Missed this. It is not for you to decide. Parents
- have the right not to vaccinate their children.
-
- >> What benefits occur to the woman, Nyikos? [remember, we're talking about
- >> those who don't want a baby]
- >
- >Well I don't mean to sound idealistic or mushy or anything silly like that,
- >but Lisa (my fiancee if ya didn't know) never ever wanted to have a baby,
- >but she had one anyway (yknow was an accident then she didn't abort
- >(but had considered it)), and she gained quite a few benefits.
- >She has found a lot of love and security in Zachary. Zachary also
- >was the person who brought us together, so without her baby, she wouldn't
- >have her newly found family (family to be kinda since I'm not there yet),
- >she wouldn't have found new direction in life, and she would have lost
- >her identity (it was kinda disappearing, but then she found it again
- >(it was under the couch, eh?)).... Also she got a much bigger tax return...
- >Are those good benefits?
-
- As did I and the reason your friend and I love our
- children is because we wanted them. They are not
- viewed as burdens because we made a decision,
- weighed the risks - financial, physical and emotional -
- and decided the risks were worth taking. For another
- woman these risks are not worth taking and I don't think
- anyone, not you or I or anyone, has the right to judge
- that woman because she makes choices we would not.
-
- Ask your fiance Mr. McBean how she would have felt
- if she had been forced, against her free will, to
- carry the fetus to term.
-
- >> Also, I noticed you never responded to
- >> rocker's post about various unkindly things that pregnancy does to the
- >> body. I also wish, at this point, that it was possible for you to get
- >> pregnant, and that you had this occur last week, as I'm fairly sure
- >> that when faced with the actuality of the postition, your colors would
- >> change faster than a chameleon's.
- >
- >But no one can be 100% sure until it actually happens.
-
- That is why the woman should have the right to
- decide for herself.
-
-
-
- Linda
- --
- The decision whether or not to terminate a pregnancy is
- essentially a moral decision and in a free and democractic
- society the conscience of the individual must be paramount
- to that of the state. Justic B. Wilson
-