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- From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
- Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
- Message-ID: <BtL8pG.I4G@rice.edu>
- Summary: <sigh> they just keep coming out of the woodwork...
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- References: <1992Aug18.133317.16209@ncsu.edu> <1992Aug23.000518.18051@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Aug26.093844.20481@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:17:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug26.093844.20481@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> cswicego@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Cynthia Swicegood) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug23.000518.18051@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>In article <1992Aug18.133317.16209@ncsu.edu>
- >>dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>><.. note follow-ups to talk.abortion, once again ..>
- >>>In article <1992Aug18.055058.14190@watson.ibm.com>
- >>>margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>>>dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>
- >>>>> Premature infants that have been born between 21 and 24 weeks have
- >>>>> been known to survive. The reported "third trimester" figures that
- >>>>> you cite do not represent all post-viability abortions, but only those
- >>>>> performed after 24 weeks.
- >>
- >>>> In other words, my figures address Mr. Moore's misconception regarding
- >>>> the number of third-trimester abortions, and your comments had nothing
- >>>> to do with what he said (quoted above).
- >>
- >>>I'm entitled to point out that your figures do not represent the number
- >>>of post-viability abortions. That's all I was doing. Don't take it so
- >>>hard.
- >>
- >>You didn't make it clear that you were addressing a different issue
- >>(viability, rather than third trimester).
- >>
- >>You haven't yet answered my questions regarding what *percentage* of
- >>fetuses from 21 to 24 weeks survive. If it's something like 5-10%, I
- >>wouldn't consider it post-viability. If it's over 50%, I would.
- >>Between those it gets murky.
- >>
- >>--
- >>Pro-Choice Anti-Roe - E. Elizabeth Bartley
- >> Abortions should be safe, legal, early, and rare.
- >
- >
- >Abortions are wrong! There's no difference between a fetus, a baby, and
- >an adult, these are just different steps in human development. People
- >say that a fetus isn't anything because it can't survive outside the
- >womb, well a baby already born can't survive outside the womb either
- >unless someone takes care of him/her and feeds him/her. You're talking
- >about human life, no matter what stage it's at and it's wrong to kill.
- >Plain and simple.
-
- ...which is your opinion. Fortunately, our legal system isn't based on your
- opinions of what's right and wrong. Now, let's try this from the top again
- -- and this time, offer some reasons why abortion is wrong in all
- circumstances, don't just assert it and expect anyone to accept that at face
- value. In the meantime, if you're so dead set against them -- then don't
- have one. After all, that *is* your choice, you know...
-
-
- --PLH (Andrew trashed Morgan City and we didn't even get a lousy
- thunderstorm...)
-
-
- --
- Patrick L. Humphrey (patrick@is.rice.edu) Rice Networking & Computing Systems
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