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- From: maniattb@cs.rpi.edu (Bill Maniatty)
- Subject: Re: Dr. Fabrikant and honesty in science
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- References: <16337@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <1992Aug27.132822.4428@bb1t.monsanto.com> <DASU.92Aug28183543@sscux1.ssc.gov>
- Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:21:44 GMT
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- In article <DASU.92Aug28183543@sscux1.ssc.gov>, dasu@sscux1.ssc.gov (Sridhara Dasu) writes:
- |> In article <28AUG199212501453@utkvx2.utk.edu> lwtsai@utkvx2.utk.edu (Liang Wu Tsai @ U. of Tenn., Knoxville) writes:
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- [stuff deleted]
- |> >Consider his argument that some people
- |> >had been co-authors on his papers and didn't even know what the paper
- |> >was about. *I* have been co-author of a few papers that *I* didn't even
- |> >know about.
- [stuff deleted]
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- |> I think a proper way is to express his appreciation in the Acknowledgement
- |> section of the paper.
- |>
- |> For a junior researcher, especially when a graduate student working with a
- |> professor with a good reputation, the junior tends to include the senior's name
- |> in his publication. From the junior side, this helps him to get into the
- |> research circle a little easier, and make his boss a little happier (in most
- |> cases).
- [more stuff deleted]
- > TED FEUERBACH Scientific Systems Consultant Trilogy Consulting, Inc.
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- |>
- |> L. W. Tsai
- |>
- |>
- |> I think that there is too much fuss in the academia about the authorship
- |> etc. How does it matter whose name is listed and in what order? For most
- |> readers of the article it is the content that matters, and when they
- |> refer to that work one wants others to be able to relocate the article.
- [more stuff deleted]
- |>
- |> - Sridhara Dasu
- |>
- I suspect that many places of employment prefer scientists with active
- research interests. The problem lies in the fact that publication and
- citation counts are used as metrics for hiring and promotion purposes.
- Employers can be faked out into rewarding non contributors if they use this
- metric and non contributors get into the author lists. The problem seems to lie
- with poorly chosen tools and the ability of undeserving individuals to circumvent
- the system.
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- Bill
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