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- From: wskelly@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (William Skelly)
- Subject: Re: Dr. Fabrikant and honesty in science
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- Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:27:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug31.170026.1493@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug31.050420.8740@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>
- >wskelly@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (William Skelly) writes:
- >>1. "author" -- "authorship"
- >> one who writes --- he/she who has written. Period.
- >> everyone one else should be acknowledged but if they
- >> didn't help _write_ the paper, they are not
- >> entitled to _authorship_
- >
- > This is a ridiculous criterion. Often, the person who writes the
- >paper did not do all (or, in some cases any) of the science. Should
- >the people who conceived and did the work not be included in the author
- >list?
- > Remember: Only one person, or at most two, can write the paper
- >(disregarding proofreading and such activities); many can participate in
- >the science.
- >
- > Marc R. Roussel
- > mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
-
- My point exactly. These people "other" people are NOT the authors.
-
- I certainly accept and agree with critisms expressed about my narrow
- definition of "author." "Authorship" does encompass more than the
- writing of a paper, it also includes the creation or ideas generated.
- I maintain that in most instances this should be the same person/
- persons writing the paper.
-
- I am still convinced that it is not a good idea to recognise
- contributions to the work by granting authorship...there must be
- a better way! The genasis and expression of an idea cannot attributed
- to a "crowd" ... there has to be some central core to the cast of
- "thousands"...we can argue what definition of "core" we should impose,
- I may run to the extreme end or a very restrictive definition. I
- accept that.
-
- Cheers,
- Chris
-