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- From: ted@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Emory F. Bunn)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Gravity and SR
- Date: 2 Sep 1992 05:53:36 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep1.215708.11691@cco.caltech.edu> stieger@cco.caltech.edu (Ronald David Stieger) writes:
- >The other day I was thinking (don't ask me why, I try to avoid it as
- >much as possible :-) about electric fields and how the field of a moving
- >charge is not spherically symmetric, and how relativity leads to magnetic
- >fields. Then I started wondering whether or not gravitational fields
- >behave the same way.
-
- The short answer is that there are indeed "gravitomagnetic" effects in
- general relativity. They're always weak in comparison to the
- ordinary gravitational effects, and as far as I know, they have
- never been directly observed. There's some hope of using extremely
- low-temperature technologies to observe gravitomagnetism in superfluid
- helium eventually.
-
- >Of course, if I remember correctly, the magnetic
- >field arises from the fact that there are both positive and negative
- >charges in a wire, and in different frames of reference these can be at
- >rest or moving; for gravity, there is only positive mass (unless someone
- >has made a new discovery recently! :-).
-
- That's right. That's the reason it's possible to produce strong
- magnetic fields without simultaneously producing much stronger electric
- fields: You can arrange positive and negative charges in such a
- way that the electric (Coulomb) force is small, but the magnetic effect
- is large. Since there's only positive mass, you can't do the
- analogous thing to produce large gravitomagnetic effects without
- simultaneously producing extremely large "gravitostatic" effects.
-
- (Stuff deleted.)
-
- >Why is it that mass and gravitational fields curve spacetime?
- >Why not charge and electric field? I suspect that it's more than just
- >a convention, but I don't understand why gravity differs from the other
- >forces in such a fundamental way.
-
- Here's one way to look at it. We know that gravity obeys this amazing
- principle that says that all test particles fall in the same way
- in a gravitational field, independent of the nature of the particle.
- This is not true for, say, the electromagnetic force. (Protons and
- electrons move differently in an electric field.) The fact that
- gravity obeys this "Equivalence Principle" means that it is possible
- to view gravity in the general-relativity way: Freely falling
- particles travel along straight lines; it's just that the spacetime
- in which they're travelling is curved. You couldn't form an
- analogous theory for electromagnetism, since the paths of different
- sorts of particles in an electromagnetic field are different.
-
- I hope this helps.
-
- -Ted
-
-