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- From: mitsu@nic.cerf.net (Mitsuharu Hadeishi)
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- Subject: Re: Report on Philosophies of Physicists
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- Date: 1 Sep 92 21:36:00 GMT
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- Not only Bohr, but also Heisenberg found a parallel between
- Eastern philosophy and quantum physics. In any case, Eastern philosophy
- is hardly to be made equivalent to "New Age mysticism"; what I call
- Eastern philosophy has nothing to do with religious dogma or
- metaphysical assumptions. It is simply a system of approaching
- the understanding of the world, just as, say, logical positivism
- could be said to be such a system, with absolutely no implied
- metaphysics or dogma. (Though there are systems of metaphysics
- associated with some Eastern religions, these systems are thought to
- be approximations or metaphors and are up for debate and possible
- change. There is no set of fixed tenets that you have to "believe in"
- as is the case with many Western religious systems.) As a system,
- the basic modes of thought do indeed have parallels to the kinds of
- philosophical issues raised by QM; in Eastern philosophy, ordinary
- truth-value logic is considered to be a "classical approximation",
- just as in physics Newtonian mechanics are thought to be a "classical
- approximation" of QM. This might be illustrated by the Zen
- saying: "Before enlightenment, a cup is a cup and a mountain is a mountain.
- While you are striving for enlightenment, a cup is no longer a cup, and
- a mountain is no longer a mountain. After enlightenment, a cup is again
- a cup, and a mountain is again a mountain." This is a metaphorical
- way of referring to the fact that ordinary or "classical" logic is
- a kind of approximation. The difference between before and after is
- similar to the difference between before you study QM and after; before
- you might think classical physics is all there is, after you realize
- you can still use classical physics for many situations, but it is
- just an approximation. The standard Western boolean logic is
- clearly an approximation; not even a very good one in many cases.
- Because Eastern philosophy subsumes "ordinary" logic as a subset,
- it happens to be quite adequate to deal with both classical and
- quantum physics.
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- Mitsu
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