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- From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Entropy
- Message-ID: <Aug.27.13.36.00.1992.11302@ruhets.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 17:36:00 GMT
- References: <Aug.19.22.04.37.1992.17693@pilot.njin.net> <Aug.20.15.59.36.1992.7531@pilot.njin.net> <1992Aug24.084117.12717@bnr.co.uk>
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- >Gibbs vs Boltzmann Entropies
- >E T Janes (1965)
- >Reprinted in:
- >E T Janes: Papers of Probability, Statistics and Statistical Physics
- >Ed: R D Rosenkratz
- >Kluwer Academic/Pallas paperbacks
- >ISBN 0-7923-0213-3
-
- FYI, if you're going to look it up, it's E.T. Jaynes with a "y." This
- is a good book to look at if you wan to try to really understand
- what is going on with all those F's and G's.
-
- My undergrad stat phys book derives the thermodynamic relation
- F = E - TS from S = k ln Omega and F = -kT ln Z. (It's F. Mandl,
- _Statistical Physics_, Wiley 1988, pp 61-63) - a pretty good first
- book, I think, firmer than Little Reif but not as dense or
- all-encompassing as Big Reif.
-
- Mandl finds S = -k sum_i (p_i ln p_i) [where i labels microstates]
-
- and uses the Boltzmann distribution p_i = exp( - E_i / kT) / Z
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- and of course E = sum_i (p_i E_i) [really the mean E - OK if N is large]
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- to get F = E - TS, the usual thermo definition.
-
-
- By the way Little Reif is the canonical name for _Statistical Physics_
- (McGraw-Hill, 1967) which is vol. 5 of the Berkeley Physics Series,
- and Big Reif is _Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics_
- (McGraw-Hill, 1965).
-
- As per canonical physicist-speak, "fundamentals" actually means it's
- more complicated.
-