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- From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Abel's proof of the insolubility of the quintic
- Message-ID: <87834@netnews.upenn.edu>
- Date: 3 Sep 92 15:28:32 GMT
- Article-I.D.: netnews.87834
- References: <1992Sep2.204229.12330@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <MARTIN.92Sep2212731@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>
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- Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
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- In-reply-to: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
-
- In article <MARTIN.92Sep2212731@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>, martin@lyra (Gary Martin) writes:
- >I don't know a good reference, but as I recall, you need to know a
- >little bit about field extensions, how groups permute roots of
- >polynomials, the relation between solvability of groups and solvability
- >of equations, and the fact that the alternating group of degree 5 is
- >simple (and hence that the corresponding symmetric group is not
- >solvable).
-
- Actually, it's neat to prove non-solvability of A_n, n>=5 directly: if
- we compute right-to-left, (abc)(cde)(cba)(edc)=(adc). So the commutator
- subgroup contains all three cycles, hence all of A_n. For the proposed
- unravel-the-Galois-proof project, this may allow a dispensation with
- any explicit group theory. [This proof is from Artin's little book.]
-
- I spent my undergraduate days under the misconception that the proof of
- the simplicity of A_5 was overly complicated and uninformative. Then I
- came across the proof in Rotman: identify the conjugacy classes of A_5,
- and notice the impossibility of any of them forming a partition for a
- size that non-trivially divides 60. This too might mean something in
- the context of the proposed project.
- --
- -Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
-