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- From: columbus@strident.think.com (Michael Weiss)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: Parallel axiom.
- Date: 31 Aug 92 10:38:47
- Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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- References: <1992Aug25.170135.504@csc.canterbury.ac.nz><1992Aug27.115903.10390@waikato.ac.nz>
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- In-reply-to: maj@waikato.ac.nz's message of 29 Aug 92 10:57:40 +1200
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- In article <1992Aug29.105741.10445@waikato.ac.nz> maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
-
- [. . .] there is something
- about Playfairs form that I dont like. I'll try to explain.
-
- It seems to me that Playfair's form has an infinitary character that
- Euclid's form lacks. It asks me to contemplate a finite diagram
- whereas Playfair's demands that I think of an infinite one. Of
- course the two are equivalent in classical logic but it seems to me
- that Euclid's might be a better starting point if you were trying
- to do things constructively [. . .]
-
- I suspect that you are right from a historical standpoint. Euclid never
- uses the modern concept of a line that is infinite in both directions. On
- the contrary, one of his postulates states that it is possible to prolong a
- line indefinitely-- clear indication that by "line" he means "line
- segment". (One caveat: I don't read Greek, so maybe I'm completely off
- base. Though I doubt it. Any classical scholars out there?)
-
- This just shows that simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. To modern
- mathematical sensibilities (and by "modern", I mean "post-Renaissance"),
- infinite lines are quite as acceptable philosophically as line segments.
- With this outlook, Playfair's postulate is short and sweet, and Euclid's
- parallel postulate is too long by half.
-
- I should say a few words about intuitionism and constructive analysis here,
- but I'm out of time.
-