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- From: tjs@eecs.umich.edu (tim stanley)
- Subject: Re: Building effects units for guitars
- In-Reply-To: bonobo@Ingres.COM's message of 4 Sep 92 16:45:44 GMT
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- In article <1882d2INNov1@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> stites@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ross M Stites) writes:
- >Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford) writes:
- >
- >
- >>Well, I'll give the advice I was given.
- >>Find a book called 'Electronic Projects for Musicians' by Craig Anderton
- >
- >I would recommend this book too, especially if you have no or little
- >experience with electronics. Just beware that the book is over 10 years
- >out of date. A lot of those projects can be built better with simpler
- >designs now, then they were at that time. Also, a lot of the parts used
- >in the book are no longer produced.
-
- The hardest thing to find in the book as far as I could tell was that
- dang little Clairex optoisolator (CLM6000) that he uses in just about
- every project. However, I was able to locate two sources for this
- part:
-
- Electronics Plus in San Rafael, CA: 1-800-321-4524
- Quinn Mike Electronics in Oakland, CA: 1-800-559-1539
-
- Other parts he uses (or direct equivalents) are still available. I sure
- wish *somebody* would write a new version of this kind of book...10 years
- is a long time in electronics (well, maybe not *analog* electronics! ;-)
-
- Thanks for the parts recommendations.
- I have a few things to add here:
-
- Yup, the book is terrific if you want to hack on this sort of thing.
- I've made and/or started to make most all of these things at one time
- or another. Check out the tube-sound-fuzz for a easy yet good
- sounding project.
-
- A company called PAIA in Oklahoma has the clairex parts available, as
- well as PC boards and/or kits for virtually all of the projects as
- well as most of the ICs that you need. IMHO - if you use Newark
- Electronics, or Mouser Electronics, the clairex part is the only hard
- to find part. All other parts are still produced and quite findable.
- Remember, Radio Shack is not *really* an electronics store! and if
- you want to hack analog electronics, you are just going to have to
- find your own favorite distributor; local or otherwise. I happily
- have used Mouser for years - your milage may vary.
-
- Regarding writing a new book... Some of those projects are from a
- book that he wrote, with which I learned basic electronics, in about
- 1975-1976, so that predates the latest (10 year old) edition. So, yes
- they are old, and yes, 10 years is a long time in consumer
- electronics. But there is a more telling point to be made. Craig now
- does mostly synth/computer/MIDI stuff I believe. "Guitar effects"
- have moved to these guitar effects processors now. Same effects as
- always - just done digitally now. So I am not sure if that makes the
- analog effects obsolete exactly; it may have made them cheaper. These
- effects processors are not made out of a handfull of resistors
- capacitors potentiometers and IC/transistors put together on a little
- board in a nice little box with a drug/sex name like Dr. Q, or Big
- Muff Pi silkscreened on it (oh, how I miss the old days...). Let's
- face it, they are computers, i.e., digital signal processors which run
- fairly sophisticated algorithms in software. The whole idea of
- building your own effect is thus much different than it used to be. I
- mean, to be cool now, you would have to build a digital signal
- processing board, then you program some algorithms into it, and you
- write new algorithms for new effects. 10 years ago, the average
- guitar player with a soldering iron and some practical sense could
- build whatever he wanted in less than a weekend, have some fun, amaze
- his friends, etc. But I would say that most DSP techniques are
- somewhat out of the reach, and perhaps out of the interest, of that
- particular kind of person. Just my opinion - no offense to those of
- you who do hack this kind of stuff. But DSP processing is not the
- same animal as practical electronic construction sense. Same effects
- are there - but the modern way of doing them is a whole lot different
- than those ancient analog ways ;-).
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