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- From: thomas@bit.UUCP (Thomas Walter)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: How hot can the 486-50 cpu run ?
- Summary: Silicon - max temperature and how to figure JUNCTION temp.
- Message-ID: <414@bit.UUCP>
- Date: 28 Aug 92 17:20:22 GMT
- Article-I.D.: bit.414
- References: <1992Aug13.022914.1563@ariel.ec.usf.edu> <17AUG92.09220477@wl.aecl.ca> <1992Aug28.035445.6441@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
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- I can't take it any more, so here are my thoughts on "how hot will it
- run".
-
- Q: How hot will that silicon run?
- A: Good question, how long do you want it to last?
-
- Seriously, some silicon will function up to the 200C mark, but you
- may find your socket melted ! There are factors such as how robust
- the design is, and what sort of process is used. One of the oil drilling
- companies poured a ton of money into developing a IC sensor that could with
- stand 300C but that was not your run of the mill silicon sensor! [To my
- knowledge it never was developed, great opportunity for a niche market!]
-
- For reliability, it would be best to keep the chip cool as possible. At the
- higher regions it may start to act "flaky". If you were to test the IC at
- various temperatures, versus supply voltages, and different temperatures
- you would get a series of "schmoo plots" showing the typical operating ranges.
-
- I've worked with automotive IC's that were "hot chucked" at wafer sort to
- 140C. The idea was to screen any parts that did not perform at temperature,
- before they were mounted in a package, or on a hybrid.
-
- Motorola specified some of its ECL parts to have maximum temperature junction
- of 165C for ceramic packages, 140C for plastic packages. (MECL 10K/10KH family)
-
- PACKAGE:
-
- The junction temperature, Tj, for a given junction-to-ambient thermal
- resistance O-ja (That "O" is supposed to a be a "theta" character, which
- isn't on my terminal!), power dissipation Pd, and ambient Ta, is given
- by:
-
- Tj = Pd * Ota + Ta
-
- example:
- To figure out how hot the IC is, you need to know the thermal characteristics
- of the package. I've worked with some 30W ECL devices, that have a total
- theta of 2.5C/W [heat sinked; with 500 cfm air flow]. That would allow the
- die to keep well below the design limit of 125C (mainly set for long term
- reliability). Given an ambient temp of 25C + 30W*2.5C/W = 100C.
-
- If a heat sink with thermal resistance Osa (sink to ambient) is used and the
- thermal resistance from junction to case, Ojc, is given, the:
-
- Tj = Pd (Ojc + Ocs + Osa) + Ta
-
- example:
- Given a 5 Volt linear regulator, with a 12v input, delivering 1 Amp of
- current; you would be dissipating 7 watts of power, 1Amp*(12-5). If the
- regulator had a 0jc of 15C/W [National Semi "H" package]; 0sc of 1W/C
- (heat sink compound); and a Osa of 8W/C (heat sink);
-
- Tj = 7W (15C/W + 1C/W + 8C/W) + 25
- = 7 W (24C/W) + 25C
- = 193C !!!! OUCH!
-
- (hint; the regulator will go into thermal shut down first!)
-
- Repeating the above with a "K" case with a 3C/W;
-
- Tj = 7W (3C/W + 1C/W + 8C/W) + 25
- = 7W (12C/W) + 25
- = 109C
-
- Hope that helps a little bit in explaining "how hot is it". I have picked
- some typical values, as an explanation. This should cover 95% of the
- Sci.electronics readers. My examples are towards worst case, actually a
- T220 package would have worked fine. Those in the semiconductor industry
- will hopefully accept my brevity. I am open to further questions.
-
- Here at BIT (Bipolar Integrated Technology) we work with a lot of high power
- ECL devices, and have a "computer controlled wind tunnel" for thermal
- characterization of our devices. This machine gives Theta j-a numbers from
- still air to a 1000 lfm of air flow.
-
- Hope this helps clarify "how hot",
-
- Thomas Walter bit!thomas@cse.ogi.edu
-