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- From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
- Subject: Re: Republican Controlled Congress
- Message-ID: <1992Sep2.113852.18938@hemlock.cray.com>
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- Date: 2 Sep 92 11:38:52 CDT
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- In article <1992Sep2.034908.25616@midway.uchicago.edu>, sug6@usite-next.uchicago.edu (Patrick Sugent) writes:
- >
- > I was asked to clarify an earlier point I made regarding the top
- > 100 spenders in congress. The following is the source of my
- > information. Please let me know if you find any typos so that
- > I may correct my copy.
- >
- > Pat
- > ___________________________________________________________________
- >
- > This is from an article I clipped in the Wall Street Journal.
-
- Well there's your problem. :-)
-
- > I don't remember the exact date.
- >
- >
- > "The Billions Congress Wants to Spend"
- >
- > Congress last week extended its own license to spend when it failed to
- > pass a constitutional amendment o balance the budget. Why did Congress
- > reject this measure? Research by the National Taxpayers Union
- > Foundation, the research arm of the anti-tax lobby, yields one
- > age-old answer: Congress was protecting interest-group wish lists.
- >
- > The foundation ran up the numbers and found that the opponents of a
- > balanced budget amendment are also sponsors of legislation that would
- > cost the taxpayers the most money.
-
- I'm curious. They mention "sponsors" of legislation, but do they include
- votes for legislation? (For example: Ted Kennedy proposes Medicade and
- 80% of the Republicans vote for it. Is the spending total added to "sponsor"
- Kennedy's total but not the Republican voters?)
-
- [Votes open a whole new can of worms in that sometimes people vote for
- bills (for political reasons) because they know the bill won't pass. An
- example is House Republicans voting for "pro-choice" legislation knowing
- that Bush would veto it and the Sentate would not override the veto.]
-
- How 'bout if Kennedy "sponsors" a National Health Insurance bill, it's
- defeated, so he co-sponsors a compromise bill. Do *both* bills count
- toward his spending total?
-
- Or how 'bout farm state legislators proposing and increase in farm price
- supports, knowing that it will never pass, to make their constituents
- happy? Or proposing a doubling of the price supports (as a barganing
- chip), knowing that they will compromise for a smaller increase?
-
- Or say Vin Weber "sponsors" import restrictions on pork imports (protecting
- the farming interests back home). This creates no "spending" in the budget,
- but has the same effect as taxing imports and "spending" (giving it to
- pork farmers). Is it counted as "sponsoring" spending? If so, so is
- that spending calculated?
-
- Then there is the whole issue of entitlements. Entitlement spending
- continues each year without new legislation. Who is counted as the
- "sponsor" of social security spending (or the COLA)? Or is ~70%
- of the budget (which is classified as entitlements) not included in
- the spending totals?
-
- > Congressmen who voted for the
- > balanced budget amendment are sponsoring legislation that would increase
- > spending by around $23 billion; members who opposed the amendment currently
- > sponsor legislation that would cost the taxpayer about an additional
- > $137 billion. The foundation also produced a list of the 100 congressmen
- > and women who would spend the most (as of April 5, 1992). Only
- > 16 of them supported the amendment. We reprint the list here,
- > with rankings in billions of dollars.
-
- I think a more accurate total would be just the votes for legislation
- that become law. That's a more "where the shoe hits the pavement"
- sort of total. Of course even then some will wait until there are enough
- votes to pass and then vote against, so that they can claim to be against
- the spending while not alienate their consituents that support the spending...
-
-
-
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- Russ Anderson | Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
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