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- From: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM (Todd Hoff)
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: Outgrowing Libertarianism...
- Date: 27 Aug 1992 18:45:41 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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- References: <1992Aug26.230015.20622@panix.com>
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- In article 20622@panix.com, jk@panix.com (Jim Kalb) writes:
-
- >>I would ask why do I have to pay for the things you want but you don't
- >>have to pay for the things I want?
- >
- >That's a question someone might ask who wanted the government to do lots
- >of things, but not provide a police system, a military establishment or
- >a judicial system. How many people like that are there? Does that
- >point of view even make sense?
- >
-
- What make sense depends on your value system.
- If our systems differ than what makes sense differs. Just as we have
- genetic diversity we also have "value system" diversity. You must
- operate in a varied world and be able to deal with the beliefs of others
- in a genuine way. You take it as true that police, courts, defense, etc.
- are all necessary. Many anarchists will sincerely disagree with you.
- Many socialists will also sincerly disagree with your limits. Many many
- people are inbetween. So now what?
-
- >When used in a debate with a human being, the pronoun "you" does not
- >normally refer to the government. So the lib wouldn't have to say yes
- >any more than other people -- he could say as readily and as sincerely
- >as anyone "I believe each of us should help those in desperate need by
- >what we do individually and in cooperation with others."
- >
-
- Again, after much protestation, in the end should the government as the last
- resort help the starving family of five? A simple yes or no will do.
-
- >I haven't the faintest idea why immutable principles and righteousness
- >are supposed to be responsible for current events in Bosnia or the
- >holocaust.
-
- Is not "ethnic purity" the most immutable and self-righteous principle
- you can think of?
-
- >I would have thought that some moral courage -- which has a
- >lot to do with fixed principles -- could have helped prevent or mitigate
- >those catastrophes.
-
- I guess you were wrong.
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