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From: [e-mail] (Jon Kutemeier)
Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
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In article <hill.715462676@galena12> you write:
|>
|> So the scout leader's rights are more important than the scouts rights because
|> he is a leader or because he is an adult or because he is gay and supposedly a
|> minority now?

You obviously did not understand a word in that paragraph. The point that
was being made is that gay scout leaders are being *forced* out of their
role as scout leader, while a scout (or his parents) can *choose* which
troop he is a part. The scout has the *right* to be a part of the troop,
while the scout leader is being told he does not have *any right* being
a scout leader. So in this case, yes, the scout leader's rights are more
important, since he is not given a choice.

|> If it's nobody's business, then why is there such a huge gay/lesbian movement
|> and why is there a gay rights agenda and why are their "rights" to behave as
|> they please being forced on society. If it's nobody's business, then
|> it should not even be an issue.

The reason there is such a big movement is because society does deny gays and
lesbians certain rights based strictly on their sexual orientation. The
military ban is one example. Legal marriages, and all the benefits associated
with marriage, are denied gay and lesbian couples. And you are right, it should
not be an issue. However, since these restrictions are there, and have been
placed there by certain groups in our society, it has become an issue.


|> Certainly true. Any behavior can be learned or unlearned. Homosexuality is
|> a behavior and can be unlearned as well as learned.

First of all, I'd like to see any quantitative analysis that proves that
homosexuality is a learned behavior. If it is learned, and most gays and
lesbians grow up in a straight family or environment, then where did they
learn it from (and don't tell me that they were "molested" by some old
man down the street, it just doesn't wash)?

Second, as has been stated before, since homosexuality is a "learned
behavior", that means that you could learn to be gay. I challenge you
to be gay for a week. That should be no problem, since once you've learned
to be gay, you should be able to un-learn it, right? Not necessarily have
a same-sex encounter, but to be *gay* for a week.

|>
|> Let us not forget that what the gay/lesbian movement is asking is for
|> rights based on their behavior and not their humanity.
|>

Let us not forget that what the gay/lesbian movement is asking for are rights
based on who and what they are, and what they feel for another human.

Finally, Get off your high horse. Who are you to judge a person's humanity?

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