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- From: mwilson@orl.mmc.com (Mark Wilson)
- Newsgroups: rec.scouting
- Subject: Re: What's the role of the Pack Committee Chair
- Message-ID: <1992Aug31.234023.13874@iplmail.orl.mmc.com>
- Date: 31 Aug 92 23:40:23 GMT
- References: <1992Aug31.133921.4792@linus.mitre.org>
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- In article 4792@linus.mitre.org, edelheit@smiley.mitre.org (Jeff Edelheit) writes:
- >I am curious how different packs split the work between the committee
- >chair and the cubmaster.
-
- The Cub Scout Leader's Handbook is the single best reference for your answer. I don't
- have mine here (the text would be too long to post, anyway). I'll look up the page
- references if you want. Any good Cubmaster wouldn't be without this book. Mater of
- fact, all Cub Leaders should have one (IMO).
-
- >I'd hate to see the pack fall apart.
-
- Most of us who have led a pack feel that way. Don't be too worried. If there is
- something good going on or even just started, someone will pick up the ball. The
- best thing for you to do is try to get a good start and to find an assistant who
- will carry on. Most important, rebuilding will take some time. I've been rebuilding
- a pack for the last two years and we're not out of the woods yet.
-
- In article 23063@cbnewsl.cb.att.com, stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:
- >
- >For the one year that I was active in Cub Scouts (5th grade Webelos
- >Leader), the way I saw it done was that the Pack Committee handled
- >all the support tasks, while the Cubmaster handled anything directly
- >related to the boys.
-
- Basically, Stan is right. The Cubmaster is responsible for the Pack program and den
- operation. The Committee is responsible for everything else. The Handbook outlines
- their specific responsibilities.
-
- >The result was that the Cubmaster recruited the Den Leaders, while the
- >Committee Chair recruited the Treasurer, Blue and Gold Dinner Chair,
- >arranged for meeting space for the Pack meetings, etc.
-
- Leadership recruiting should be everyone's job all the time. I don't know of
- any units that have all the help they want.
-
- >>One final thing- I personally believe that the Committee Chair should
- >be given visibility because, to most of the parents and all the kids,
- >the central figure is the Scoutmaster (and they don't even know about
- >the Troop or Pack Committee).
-
- The committee does it's work mostly behind the scenes. It's like being on the
- crew of a play or movie. The CM is the star and therefore most recognized. There
- should be a special effort to recognize all those (registered or not) who help
- make the Pack go.
-
- In article 17968@cbnewsk.cb.att.com, brick@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.p.stawicki) writes:
-
- >Hope this helps somewhat. I am Cubmaster of 135 boys, my Committee
- >Chair was one of my Webelos Leaders.
-
- National policy prohibits adult leaders from holding two positions within the same
- unit. The only exception is the COR, who may hold one other position in the Pack.
- The commisioners should catch this at recharter. At the least, the council computer
- might.
-
- >We split up the work close to
- >what follows: I handle the internal Pack policies, training needs,
- >den assignments, den problems, etc. All are concerned with the
- >Pack membership. My CC deals with outside events, e.g training
- >courses, Council and District events and happenings.
-
- From a pragmatic point of view, whatever works is great. Perhaps you would consider
- shifting the training stuff to the CM and the policy stuff to the CC. That would
- bring the division more in line with other units and the handbook.
-
- >We both set up
- >the Pack calendar (I know that we should have a committee do this,
- >but fewer is faster for this meeting), and the programs initially.
- >At our first Committee/Leaders meeting all is outlined and discussed
- >with the other members of the Leadership and if needed, changes are made.
-
- The CM and the CC may get together to create a proposed calendar, but the final
- calendar should be decided at the annual planning meeting. The annual planning
- meeting should include as many registered leaders as possible and, especially,
- the COR. The pack calendar should consider the Chartered Organization, Council
- District and local school calendars.
-
- >I do not have seperate committee and leaders meetings. My experience
- >has been that everyone has input. In this manner, all of the members
- >of the Leadership feel important, and no one is told what to do.
-
- Although everything from national calls for separate meetings for the committee
- and the leaders, I agree with this approach. Not only do you get more input,
- but you don't have to repeat everything and there is one less meeting on the
- schedule (and who needs another meeting?)
-
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- Mark Wilson
- Eagle Class of 1974
- SM, Troop 565, Deltona, FL
- also CC, Pack 565, CM training award, Cub Scouter training award, for
- what it's worth.
-