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- From: anthropo@carina.unm.edu (Dominick V. Zurlo)
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- Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
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- Date: 28 Aug 92 17:30:00 GMT
- References: <1992Aug28.030524.11674@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <1992Aug28.153206.24023@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> <1992Aug28.163733.330@wam.umd.edu>
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- In article <1992Aug28.163733.330@wam.umd.edu> aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug28.153206.24023@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
- >>Using simple substitution on Stan Krieger's remarks, I get:
- >>
- >{substituted paragraphs deleted}
- >>
- >>(end of substitution)
- >>
- >>Would someone like to explain how this differs in any logical fashion
- >>from Stan's argument? It's clearly as persuasive--millions died from
- >>such rhetoric, and Jews above all others should recognize it as the
- >>hate-mongering that it is.
- >>
- >
- >This differs from his argument just because he was not saying it.
- >He has used a particular forM of exprerssion to show his point. It does
- >not mean that he would use the same kind of expression to show another
- >point. So, you should refer to what he is saying and prove that wrong and
- >not chage what he is saying, because you do not know if that is what he is
- >trying to say.
- >In this particular case, the flaw in the logic is clear: He is talking about
- >homosexuality which is not a religion, and you are talking about Judaism,
- >which is a religion. And, the difference in logic is given by the different v
- >views that society has about religion and homosexuality.
- >What he IS showing here is a particular point of view that some members of our
- >society have about homosexuality, which is in no way related to their view
- >about religion.
- >
- Except that Judaism is more than a religion, it is also a cuture, and there
- are many different sects and differences and communities. And so it is with
- the Lesbigay communities. The argument is the same. The difference is that
- it's ok to discriminate against lesbigays n our culture, and it's not quite
- so ok to discriminate against Jews. But it happens. Discrimination on any
- basis is wrong, and nature or choice is not an excuse. Plain and simple.
- Humanity for all, equality included.
- But just as a question to stir the pot a bit, what would you then say
- about a Hermaphrodite being a scout? that's natural, and to change s/him
- by surgery would be unnatural? Just a thought.
- WWW
- Dominick V. ZUrlo
- these are my opinions, and mine only. There Mine Mine Mine, all Mine.
- >
- >
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