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- From: DPierce@world.std.com (Richard d Pierce)
- Subject: Re: How are speaker impedences specified?
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- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:14:51 GMT
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- Bruce G. Bostwick writes:
- >
- >Bear in mind, too, that the change in impedance with frequency isn't
- >even roughly linear. The voice coil is an inductor with a biased
- >core, yes, but the cone is a mechanical component, and so is the air
- >in and outside the box, and remember back emf? That's right, the
- >resonances and responses of the speaker, the box, and even the room to
- >a tiny extent show up in the circuitry as 'backtalk' to the amp. This
- >means small (and sometimes large) peaks and dips in the impedance
- >curve that change, often chaotically, when anything gets moved.
- >
-
- Wow, do we have a pile of assertions ripe for the testing or what!?
-
- First, "change in impedance with frequency isn't even roughly linear."
- If we take the statement at face value, then so what? By linear, do you
- mean that it can;t be modeled by a first order (linear) equation? If so,
- your absolutely right, but, again, so what? At a given drive level, we can
- come up with a pretty damned accurate model based on a sufficiently complex
- equivalent circuit, and such a model behaves as arbitrarily close to reality
- as you care to take the time and effort to make it. It's an excercise I
- perform pretty much on a daily basis in my work.
-
- About the voice coiul being an inductor with a "biased core,", in a word,
- wrong because of poor understanding of the phenomenon and vast
- oversimplificaion. The voice coil (and the magnet) act as transformers. They
- essentially transform the motional impedance of the speaker (along with the
- absolutely miniscule acoustical impedance) to an electrical equivalent (and,
- in doing so, also transform electrical power into mechanical power). Again,
- so what?
-
- Now the fun begins. Yeah, what about the cone, and the air both in and outside
- box? Are you willing to assert that the air performs non-linearly within the
- normal operating range of the loudspeaker. I think not by a long shot. And
- back EMF is nothing more than the electrical transformation of the motional
- impedance of the system.
-
- Now, the real meat comes in, where the assertion is made that "the resonances,
- and responses of the speaker, the box and even the room to a tiny extent show
- up in the circuitry as 'backtalk'" (hmmm, reminds me of a recalcitrant student
- I once had at a lecture, "But Dr. Bose said..." SMACK!).
-
- Let's look (and I invite you to research this independently) the various
- sources of the impedance components in a loudspeaker.
-
- There are "losses". These are the resistive components of the impedance. The
- single greatest source of losses is very simple, it's the DC resistance of
- the voice coils (and of any resistive attenuator circuits in the crossover).
- They acount for typically 95% of the total losses in the passband of the
- system (below the passband, they account for ALL the losses, above, the speaker
- is essentially reactive and not radiating anyway, by definition).
-
- The second most important set of losses are mechanical. They can be significant
- where mechanical velocities are relatively high (such as at the fundamental
- resonance of the woofer, where the motional losses might be as much as 10% of
- the pure resistive losses), but through most of the passband, they are quite
- minimal.
-
- Then there are the acoustic losses: these are the "losses" into which we
- actually produce sound. They are absolutely insiginificant. I would hazard
- to estimate that, in the passband, they account for no more than 1% of the
- total losses at best for direct radiator loudspeaker systems (now, as a very
- interesting aside, the typical efficiency of a direct radiator system just
- so happens to coincide with the ratio of acoustic losses, or more accurately,
- the radiation resistance, to all other combined losses!).
-
- The reactive components are due to several things. There is a "reactive"
- component on either side of fundamental mechanical resonances. There might
- be component due to the fundamental cone breakup mode. There are reactive
- components due to crossovers. And there is a reactive component due to
- the inductance of the voice coils. Now this latter does not behave like a
- pure inductance (and might be the "non-linear" that you refer to but is
- not non-linear per se. In fact it behaves very much like a lossy poorly
- coupled transformer driving a fairly resistive load).
-
- The real assertion comes when the statement is made that the impedance curve
- changes "often chaotically, when anything moves." This is nonsense, plain and
- simple. From an empirical standpoint alone, I've measured enough systems to
- find that the amount of coupling between the amplifier and the room is so
- small and insignificant as to completely bury any such effects so far down
- in the noise that they are undetectable. As to the "chaotic" part, in what
- way is it "chaotic". Do you mean that the impedance curve looks lumpy and
- irregular. Indeed it does, but it is quite deterministic and hardly chaotic
- in any way that I am familiar with the term.
-
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